A couple of points
1)excellent post, agree entirely.
2)who are you and where is saddened?

Its funny how Fielden gets slated, but Cayless is very much the forgotten man.

He was superb up there with Fielden in his prime but both are shadow's of there former selves, yet still only Fielden gets slated despite him actually taking the field.

Perhaps being the forgotten man is not such a bad thing.

For what its worth I would not be surprised to see him come back and make a go of it in the NRL.

As if to almost repeat myself, a couple of points
1)cayless has been very good when fit, his body has just let him down.
2)Feildn is still a good, hard working prop, he might not seem to have the same effect, but he is still a top prop IMO

=redCut it out. Carlos.

When saints signed JC he was rated one of top 3 props in the world and was awesome for us until he got injured.

Just think how good he and graham would have been? both 80 min props.

For a man of his size, he was pretty $hite.. Thats all I'll add.
Loads of salary wasted on him.
We signed the wrong brother AGAIN

FFS, you are clueless.

The man's career is in tatters and you don't think he's bothered?

And you don't read posts.

Go read the post I was replying to and my post again and then try and summon up an intelligent post yourself, if you can manage it. I will then give consideration to answering you. Meantime, go play with yourself.

I read it, you said he's not as bothered as us because he gets paid where as the fans are a player down all year.

That's as ridiculous as most of your posts. Care to correct my mistake?

Here's the conversation, petal:


Now, where do I say he is not as bothered as us? I say 'I wouldn't have thought so'. Not quite the categorical statement you are suggesting. I could go into a full linguistic analysis of my post but I can't be bothered. You are clearly bored and need to have a little nitpick to reassure the world that you don't have a small willy. I'm not going to indulge you.

The one guy we have never repaced is "Baloo" - big meaty prop who can cut it in winter conditions as well as summer.

And you say I'm nit-picking!

One thing's for sure, I wouldn't have thought that a "suppporter" who openly admitted they wouldn't watch the Leeds game because they thought we'd lose is more bothered about a player's season (and possibly career) ending injury than the player himself.

Cayless was a top player before injuries robbed him of his prime. However, he was never in the same league as Britt or Fairleigh. The former was an offloading magician, the latter a head from mount Rushmore with adamantium legs grafted on who trampled on people.

We hvae been lucky enough to see a lot of top class props over the years at Saints - Cayless is definately in that category alongside Fairleigh, Britt, Ward (Kevin), and James Graham.

I am gutted that his Saints career is over, I just hope he can make another go at it in the NRL.


And he has a fit missus.

You think I care what you think of me?

As I said to you before. Go read my posts - properly this time - come back and try to construct an intelligent post yourself. I will then consider responding. Meanwhile you may find yourself some therapy as you do seem pretty obsessed with me given that you think I'm clueless.

She's stunning.

I wish Cayless all the best, a very good prop and a decent guy.

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I don't think that he is in the same class as the players you have named, but he was definatly a good player in the seasons he was fit.

Meninga?

Meninga was overrated. He had Sean Day outside him, who would make my Nan look good in the centres. Day was such a danger that teams were forced to double up on him, leaving a bus sized gap for Meninga to occasionally plod through.

Sounds strangely familiar to a certain player in the current squad... can't think who though

He was up there as one of the best props in the NRL before he came over here, and in 2006 he was by far our best prop.

Britt was a different class to any of them - but Cayless has definately had a more succesful and high profile career than Fairleigh, in particular.

Its a bit hard to compare against Ward being from different era's - would Ward be as good in the full time era, or would he struggle with the fitness requirements?

Graham has the potential to be the best prop in the world - although I suspect he will have to go to the NRL to fulfill all his potential.

Are we talking about the same player here? David Fairleigh, former Australia international and State Of Origin player, who was voted as the best forward in the NRL the year we signed him?

Cayless was a good prop, but he was nowhere near the player Fairleigh was. Fairleigh was one of, if not the best, prop to grace Super League.

I had hardly heard of Big Dave when we signed, I knew of him and knew he had played for the national squad for a game or two...but hadnt realy heard much hooo haaa about him.. Cayless on the other hand came with a shower of glory around him, maybe its becuase he was part of that quality roosters side that ripped up the nrl, won teh league, tore apart saints in the WCC etc etc... cayless was in the top 5 props in the world when he joined us. I defo think Jason came to us with the bigger tag... of course "daisy" turned out to be a gem of all prop forward gems, as did JC when fit.

Agreed. Fairleigh was the best prop that he named, along with Kevin Ward, he was better than Britt and definatly better than Cayless, although both Britt and Cayless were good forward for us, Fairleigh was better.