Which begs the question, will we be spending anywhere near the salary cap next season or are we making cutbacks because of the financial black hole the stadium scenario is?

If someone with McManus' experience and resume can't keep a club afloat we might as well roll up the sport and watch football.

true but next year we will have less wages that = less cash

its kool

a cup final can be worth anywhere up to £500,000. If we don't get the grand final we could lose £1million for the financial year

I'm confused, very confused

Let's hope we haven't budgeted for making either then.

Aren't the squads of both clubs pretty much the same last year? The only things that have changed seem to be the coaches. Nathan Brown has transformed Huddersfield. That's the difference. Do you have money you can't spend? If not, the salary cap is irrelevant, surely.

I've just read the thread on "the end of an era", and it is good to see that the main view appears to be welcoming an open competition, unlike the Wigan threads on the same subject, who seem to think it is their right to buy the game for themselves.

If we have then we deserve everything we get. That was Wigan plan during their glory-buying years and they are STILL paying the price for it.

do teams get any money if they win the wcc.

there might be a small amount, but most revenue will come from ticket sales and merchandise

It's more like half of that. This is not football.

the prize money alone in 97 was £250,000, that came from the then chairman at the agm

This post makes me laugh, I presume by Davy he means ken davy? i.e the Giants chairman, one sentence is saying davy is rich and the next he is saying our so called "tin pot chairman" cant afford it? Are you sure you know what you are on about? HMMMMM thought not!

I was being a little sarcastic there fella!

In case you missed it, the point was the success of both wire + hudds has nothing to do with the sc, but more to do with two rich owners willing to invest time money and skill in improving their clubs

1. Oh yes I remeber those time well, Watching wigan buy the league and cup double every year was so great to watch and really helped bring the game on


2. As opposed to every game thar didn't involve Wigan being poor because only Wigan had the good players what with them killing the sport with a totally selfish attitude of 'fook em well buy em all'.
Do you mean like that?

How you can be so sure that without the salary cap players like Wild, Robinson, Mason, Wild, Hodgson, Morley, King et al would be at those teams? IIRC Wild was made an offer by Saints at a time when Saints could, if the salary cap wasn't in place, comfortably paid more for his services than Huddersfield and he scored a couple of tries yesterday.

I can't, if the universe followed an entirely different timeline, I like everyone else would have no idea what would happen!

But what I am saying is that it is the investment of time money and skill which brought success to wire + hudds not the sc. Quality + time will always bring success

Not if someone else comes in and buys them.

is that what would happen? are you sure that maybe Davy couldnt reject these offers? could HE be the one buying players?

Yes, what a victory for the CC... four mediocre teams contesting the semi-finals of the cup... a giant leap forward in quality...

Huddersfield were excellent and are the best defensive team in the league. Just because you think they're mediocre doesn't make it true.

What makes it mediocre is that the Giants side is a decent side and nothing more. Standards have equalled out but the quality on show today is poor compared to the standard of 10 years ago.

Would you imagine that side holding out the Saints of Milward, Wigan over 10 years ago and the Bulls of 5 years ago. Whilst the cap has made each match a game where most results are not for gone conclusions, the standard of play has paid a heavy price. Lets put it this way. the great Saints side that Milward hade would have hammered both sides. As the ball retention of both sides was very poor and i think at one point in the second half it was mentioned that Giants completion rate was 60%. Might be wrong but im fairly certain of that.

And last night two of those mediocre teams played again and produced a game of poor quality and poor entertainment value, while Leeds humiliated Castleford 72-16, a perfect example of the level playing field at work. Yet more victories for the CC...

Saints of 2002ish would have scored more points but not as many as you think. They'd also have conceded more.

The Wigan of 10 years ago would have been held out.

The Bulls of 5 years ago would have produced a similar game.