Sorry pal just because i tell it like it is....I think the only lads who need to wipe their underpants are your 15

tonight after $h1ttin emselves of a poor wakey side!!

Like thats gonna bother me....he was probably in Pizza Hut applying for a job the daft $h1t!!

saints love child and jizz material paul wellens loses them the game.

You couldn't make this sh*t up.

I wonder if you're starting to wake up to how average, bog standard, run of the mill he is.

From what i've read on here it wasn't just his kicking that was poor.

Shock horror, Wigan fan still living in the past thinking they still have a divine right to finish above the likes of Wakey and Cas. You are now a mediocre team battling it out with the likes of us Cas Hull KR Quins and Wire for a play off spot. Get over yourself and live in the now Andy

Very much doubt it Wigan are sticking by him and he will be coaching kids, thank God it wont be my kids.

The salary cap is evening things out. No team can have an overly powerful squad or be expected to dominate.

I think its great going to the GPW and watching matches were the result is in doubt until the final whistle.
Who wants to watch opposition teams turn up lie down and let Saints role all over them. Not me.

Thats gone now and thank goodness for it. In the long run it will mean clubs will need to find ways of having that edge, that means players and coaches will need to raise the bar.

We'll see.....the only team thats realistically going to break the Stains Leeds GF combo by some distance is wigan, even after our p155 poor season so far...can you REALLY see wakey, wire, cas, or hudds getting to a GF?!

Id say wire and hudds are better than wigan, the rest i mentioned are on par. Wigan aren't a force any more. Fact. Name yes, force, no.

I tend to think in pressure rugby, wigan will have the ability to raise their game and play better than wakey et al. That's just my opinion.

I fear Hudds, Hull Kr, Quins, Wakey and Wire over your shower of sh*te!

One thing that goes for us is we're used to playing under pressure but usually for the wrong reasons ie to stay in the league, also Kear has an uncanny knack of getting the best out of players in knock out competitions.

So does Brian Noble.

IMO i'd fear wigan in a playoff game more than wakey.

Saints got a bad call with the pinball head on try.

Grix played the ball and the kick came in and rebounded all over the place.

There were no knock ons but Grix was in front of the kicker, so cannot touch the ball as he was within the 10..

It should have been a penalty to Saints.


Wakefield also got a couple of bad calls but not so decisive as that one.

What's that then? The universal language of utter gibberish?

Yes we are weaker this year but how can you blame potter?

He took over the current squad.

If saints board think we can let 4 players go every year and not replace them with experiance then we are in for massive shock next year.

IMO we are now paying the price for not recruting players for last 2 seasons.

If we don't sign 2 props next year then we will struggle big time.

I thought the last time it was allowed to head the ball for a try was the John Harrison one, then it was banned......has the law been changed now.

Harrison deliberately headed the ball, that didn't happen tonight, but Grix was in front of the kicker, so technically offside, and can't be inside the 10 even if a Saints player touches the ball.

I thought it was fair try. Nothing wrong with it at all IMO

Carvill last week, Grix this week, any forecast on a Harlequin player next week.

Watch it again, and I'm sure that Grix the try scorer, is in front of the player who kicked the ball (Obst?)

What we can't lose sight of in all this is that Wakefield thoroughly deserved their win. Brough marshalled the team around well and I thought Grix mas magnificent once he seemed to move infield. Christ, even Bibey looks like a RL player now*


*I may have gone over the top with that last line.

Not watched on tv yet but from seeing it on big screen I couldn't see anything wrong with it.

We was beat fair and square by the better team.

Could be wrong here,so apologies if i am.

Grix was in front of Obst when it was kicked,but when Grix picked up the ball Obst had already moved in front of him -- hasnt Obst then put everyone on side?

There is no way it doesn't touch his arms either. But I would have given it just to punish the stupidity of the Saints players. Grix wasn't the closest and two Saints players just stood there counting the blades of grass on the floor whilst he picked it up and scored. One of the cumb nunts even stepped over the ball to avoid kicking it.

It was just 1 of them lucky trys. It could have bounced anywhere.