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| Quote ="Billinge Wires"Why did they ger rid of Millward then - because he abused a Warrington official? However Pryce has been convicted twice now I believe, both for physical assaults and not verbal assaults. Seems double standards for me and not something I had associated St Helens Rugby Club with.'"
there was 3 charges against Millward:
1) abusing the Warrington media officer
2) abusing the Saints media officer
3) Swearing at the 4th official and subsequently lieing about it
make your own mind up about whether those 3 are worse than what Pryce did.
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| Quote ="debaser"So a strong response from St Helens to ensure that criminal behaviour will not be tolerated....
...this certainly isn't.
Glad to see that the Saint's board consider this a matter of no importance.'" Where have they said they don't think its important?
To be fair to the board they know the facts of the case, they know exactly what happened which is something nobody on here knows.
Just like last week people were assuming because he hadn't got a custodial sentence he had "got away with it" they are assuming the exact same now. Some people wouldn't have been happy unless the club sacked him - and for most its nothing to do with what has happened but to do with a dislike of the player.
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| TO be fair, you're not going to sack your best players and matchwinners, are you?
The board have chickened out, here. A reserve player, or a player with not much to offer would have been out on his backside.
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| Quote ="ROBINSON"TO be fair, you're not going to sack your best players and matchwinners, are you?
The board have chickened out, here. A reserve player, or a player with not much to offer would have been out on his backside.'"
True, its just a fact of life.
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| I am thoroughly ashamed of this decision. The time was ripe to send out a message and make Leon Pryce genuinely repent of his actions.
This could have been the right moment to set the right example in Rugby league. Given the decision I am ashamed that the board did not make a condition of him continuing in Saints colours dependent upon him sending a replacement one of these to Mr. O' Brien....
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| Quote ="ROBINSON"TO be fair, you're not going to sack your best players and matchwinners, are you?
The board have chickened out, here. A reserve player, or a player with not much to offer would have been out on his backside.'"
Exactly right, which is why Saints and Wigan have kept Pryce and Feka on respectively and Wire took the chance to dump the injury prone underachieving Reardon.
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| Quote ="saints35 bulls0"hmmm would have liked to see the board be a bit stronger on this issue.'"
why? It was a nothing incident
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| if anyone thinks that had Leon been a fringe player or a reservist he would have got the same 'punishment' then they are deluded.
clear case of double standards and only wanting to do a token gesture re punishment of a key player
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| Quote ="No1 Saint"why? It was a nothing incident'"
I agree, from what i have read i think people are blowing it way out of proportion and the right punishment has been given - only for the reason of bringing bad publicity to the game/your club.
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| Quote ="ROBINSON"TO be fair, you're not going to sack your best players and matchwinners, are you?
The board have chickened out, here. A reserve player, or a player with not much to offer would have been out on his backside.'"
We didnt chicken out of sacking Ian Milward our most successfull coach.
Wigan of course had no such qualms about then immediately recruiting a disgraced coach.
The club appear to have followed standard disciplinary procedures re Pryce has been given a formal warning re his behaviour.
This is not a let off as some people may think. Pryce now knows he has to be squeaky clean in how he behaves at the club.
Certainly i would expect any professionally run club such as Saints to follow employment guidelines re internal disciplinary matters. Otherwise they could find themselves at the wrong end of the law and facing a civil suit for unfair dismissal.
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| Quote ="nikos"if anyone thinks that had Leon been a fringe player or a reservist he would have got the same 'punishment' then they are deluded.
clear case of double standards and only wanting to do a token gesture re punishment of a key player'"
and what did wigan do to feka?
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| Wow, you really told him.
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| Quote ="Saint Simon"and what did wigan do to feka?'"
no, but then again this topic is not about him or any other club and their actions
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| Quote ="gateaux"Where have they said they don't think its important?
To be fair to the board they know the facts of the case, they know exactly what happened which is something nobody on here knows.
Just like last week people were assuming because he hadn't got a custodial sentence he had "got away with it" they are assuming the exact same now. Some people wouldn't have been happy unless the club sacked him - and for most its nothing to do with what has happened but to do with a dislike of the player.'"
Are the full facts as per every other trial not open to the public domain and thus any one wanting to know the facts can have them to hand?He has pleaded guilty hasnt he.
I am disappointed in Saints though thought that they would have made a stance. This seems to me to put the message out that if you are a star player there is always a way that the club could accomade you.
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| Quote ="nikos"if anyone thinks that had Leon been a fringe player or a reservist he would have got the same 'punishment' then they are deluded.
clear case of double standards and only wanting to do a token gesture re punishment of a key player'"
100% correct and i would be very suprised in the world of pro sport if you would see much different from 99% of clubs!
though the nrl which has the highest profile and highest standard of our sport is trying to clean the game up as clubs and a governing body! cronulla just sacked its captain and the raiders sacked its best player in carney.
i would like super league to follow suit!!
i think what i would like to see is a 2 strikes and your out system. first strike suspended from the rest of the season that you have brought the game into disripute and second strike banned for life.
lets see if the likes of bailey, walker, feka, pryce, raynor, readon, cunningham, cockayne and the rest dare not be well behaved then.
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| Does anyone even know the extent of the assault? Read somewhere that the woman in question got three bruises on her arm, and her new partner was pushed and fell over/banged his head.
I'm leaning to think that this has been blown waaayyyy out of proportion going off what has been mentioned in press reports and so forth. I realise that relying on press reports is hardly ideal, but if the woman had taken a good thumping/kicking, we'd surely know about it.
Not condoning any sort of non-reciprical violence, naturally, but until someone knows the true extent of said assault, i don't see how the club's punishment can be regarded as inadequate.
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| Quote ="In Torment In Hell"Does anyone even know the extent of the assault? Read somewhere that the woman in question got three bruises on her arm, and her new partner was pushed and fell over/banged his head.
I'm leaning to think that this has been blown waaayyyy out of proportion going off what has been mentioned in press reports and so forth. I realise that relying on press reports is hardly ideal, but if the woman had taken a good thumping/kicking, we'd surely know about it.
Not condoning any sort of non-reciprical violence, naturally, but until someone knows the true extent of said assault, i don't see how the club's punishment can be regarded as inadequate.'"
the first judge who found them guilty said he was thinking jail time? so there must of been something quite unsavoury in the evidance.
as ive said lucky for pryce and readon they got a change of judge fopr the sentancing? not sure why the judge was changed? maybe the first one was too drunk lol
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| the courts have issued their sentence and so have the club.
RE MIllward. what he did was done at a moment when he was acting in the capacity of an employee of the club. he was not subject to criminal charges but was subject to internal discipline. He was effectively abusing his position.
Leon is a different issue. Lets be clear, as a Bradfordian whose recently deceased friend was glassed by Leon, I have no time whatsoever for him as a person, but he is an incredible footballer. He needs to focus on that aspect of his life and now live it out on the back rather than front pages of newspapers.
From what our local paper reported, it sounds like he was daft to get involved, but the other guy came at him witha rounders bat. He should not have been in that position, but how many of us would have done the same?
He is embarrassed by it all and rightly so. He should issue an apology to the fans of your club, as he has slightly sullied your image, but in my opinion nowhere near as much as Long and Gleeson did a few years back.
He will get stick from away fans like on Friday, and in a way that will be a punishment. I hope that we will stop talking about Leon Pryce the thug and spend more time talking and reading about Leon the great rugby player ( except when he is playing against the BUlls).
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| Quote ="In Torment In Hell"Does anyone even know the extent of the assault? Read somewhere that the woman in question got three bruises on her arm, and her new partner was pushed and fell over/banged his head.
I'm leaning to think that this has been blown waaayyyy out of proportion going off what has been mentioned in press reports and so forth. I realise that relying on press reports is hardly ideal, but if the woman had taken a good thumping/kicking, we'd surely know about it.
Not condoning any sort of non-reciprical violence, naturally, but until someone knows the true extent of said assault, i don't see how the club's punishment can be regarded as inadequate.'"
You do ignore the fact that he broke into their house through a locked door...
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| Quote ="Gazemous"You do ignore the fact that he broke into their house through a locked door...'"
No he didn't. Reardon did, or are you suggesting he should pay for someone else's crime?
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| Quote ="Gazemous"You do ignore the fact that he broke into their house through a locked door...'"
quite!! if someone kicked my door in the first thing i would do is tool up!! your come through me to get to my family!!
screw driver, carving knife, cricket bat!! i once had a girfriend who's dad was a game keeper and if you kicked his front door in you would have had a shot gun or a rifle stuck in your face that was still accurate at about a mile.
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| Lol at some of the deluded posts on here.
He pushed a guy over, nothing more than what Willie Talau was doing round town every week FFS! The only guilty person was Reardon and that was for telling his ex that there son was in hospital. Which is sick!
Nice to see Wigan fans admitting that Fat Feka aint a key player.
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| Quote ="Saint Simon"No he didn't. Reardon did, or are you suggesting he should pay for someone else's crime?'"
if my mate tried to kick a door in ide stop him not follow him in. its not like leon isnt strong enough to stop readon, he's 6'3 and 17stone
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| Quote ="sgtwilko"quite!! if someone kicked my door in the first thing i would do is tool up!! your come through me to get to my family!!
screw driver, carving knife, cricket bat!! i once had a girfriend who's dad was a game keeper and if you kicked his front door in you would have had a shot gun or a rifle stuck in your face that was still accurate at about a mile.'"
They found NOT GUILTY for breaking into the house ? do you understand what that means ?
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| Quote ="Gazemous"You do ignore the fact that he broke into their house through a locked door...'"
he didnt break in, reardon did. leon could have followed him in to try and get him to come out and make sure things didnt go to far, for all any of us know, but when he went in, reardons ex wifes partner came at him with a bat, he defended himself by pushing him away, he didnt hit anyone, he didnt attack anyone with any sort of weapon, he defended himself, the same as anyone would have done, his mistake was to follow reardon to the flat in the first place. does that mean he deserves to be sacked, i dont think it does,
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