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| Quote ="Codarmysaint"If you look at wigans team, man for man, they are no better than the likes of Hull KR.
It speaks volumes about the coaching staff'"
its the same wigan team as last year,what does that say about noble?
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| Quote ="Rogues Gallery"Let's have a look at Leeds last night and see if the same happened to Wigan how it would look.
Five Internationals in the backs played, with a winger and centre missing.
If that was Wigan we would bring in Ainscough and put Goulding to centre.
Leeds had two props missing.
Wigan could start with O'Carroll and Prescott and still have Feka on the bench.
Leeds had Eastwood, Sinfield and Ablett missing.
Wigan could have Hansen, Bailey and O'Loughin out, and still have Mossop, Joel Tomkins and Liam Farrell.'"
Peacock & Sinfield may forensically be described as "a prop" and "a loose forward", but we all know both bring more to the table than merely filled jerseys. Unlike Feka, who can barely fit in one.
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| Quote ="Mugwump"Peacock & Sinfield may forensically be described as "a prop" and "a loose forward", but we all know both bring more to the table than merely filled jerseys. Unlike Feka, who can barely fit in one.'"
You and he could fit in last years jersey.
Although Cunningham would struggle.
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| where was feka last night ?
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| Quote ="snowdog"where was feka last night ?'"
Same place he has been for the last three weeks.
Dropped to the reserves.
However because of the injuries last night he didn't play in the reserves today, so he MAY be back in the squad for Good Friday
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| Quote ="Codarmysaint"If you look at wigans team, man for man, they are no better than the likes of Hull KR.
It speaks volumes about the coaching staff'"
That comment speaks volumes about You!
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| Quote ="Rogues Gallery"Same place he has been for the last three weeks.
Dropped to the reserves.
However because of the injuries last night he didn't play in the reserves today, so he MAY be back in the squad for Good Friday'"
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| Quote ="Codarmysaint"If you look at wigans team, man for man, they are no better than the likes of Hull KR.
It speaks volumes about the coaching staff'"
Another in depth analysis of the current Wigan first team
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| Quote ="NickyKiss"I think Wigans strength in depth was overlooked by alot of people in pre season and still is being now tbh. To lose 9 players may be abit excessive but we could cope with 4 or 5 injuries pretty well imo. We didn't have Phelps, Hansen, Deacon, Paleaaesina, Pryce, Ainscough, Farrell etc playing last night and they'd all do a good job in the first team(well maybe not Pryce but he's got some experience).
The worry I have with our side is wheather it contains quite enough quality in the first choice 17 to win a trophy this year but I have no worries about our depth at all.
Depth wise I think we've just about got the best options in superleague.'"
If you had to play all of those players at the same time due to injuries would you still be as confident? It's alright playing one or two at a time but having to bring in all of them and juggle positions around to get the best options for the team could be a different matter.
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| AM, If you look at that team, there is no one playing out of position. Of course I think they would probably get beat against top teams , but I don't think they would get hammered.
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| Isn't it comical the way certain Wigan players, who've demonstrated no form whatsoever for years, are now, at the end of their contracts (quite co-incidentally), rolling back the stone and striding forth like a modern-day Lazarus.
Says a lot about their motivation and commitment to the Cherry & White cause, does that...
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| Quote ="Agent Mulder"If you had to play all of those players at the same time due to injuries would you still be as confident? It's alright playing one or two at a time but having to bring in all of them and juggle positions around to get the best options for the team could be a different matter.'"
And for the 2 x previous seasons when Leeds & Saints fans were telling us how good their back up players & youngsters were, we told you they only looked that good because they were playing in the best teams and only playing 1 or 2 at a time.
In 2005/2006 when we had to play 7/8 players at a time that weren't part of our 1st 13/17 we were told to just get on with it, our squad should be better, our kids weren't as good as other teams (O'Carroll/Prescott/J Tomkins/Goulding/Hansen & others that moved on like Brown & Colbon etc).
Were having (Up until Friday, I haven't heard the outcome of the injury news for this Friday Yet) a good run without injuries and you know what, were making the best of it!
We've got Leeds fans all over our board telling us it doesn't matter were you finish in the 8!
It doesn't matter how you start the season it's how you finish!
We only beat then because of the injuries (Although we've beat them at home with a full team the last 3/4 season when they've had a full team!).
We wouldn't beat them if we had injuries and had to go to their place (Although we've beat them at their place in the last couple of years when we've had 4 or 5 injuries).
Sound Familiar? Yep, that's because it sounds like us over the last 3/4 years!
IMO what's happening this season is a reflection of the hard work the club has done over the last 3 seasons in turning itself around.
For a change, and I give IL a lot of credit here (And Noble if I am Honest) is that they have shown foresight & patience and not panicked in certain situations.
They've invested in the youth and now were reaping the rewards.
Do I think were the finished article? Not by a long stretch, As I posted earlier 1st 17 on the field I would probably have Leeds/Saints just a touch in front, but we've invested in the Squad and are benefiting from having 25+ players all Capable of playing 1st team SL level Rugby.
Are we weaker when some of those are unfit, undoubtably, but given an equal run of luck with injuries I think over a season we are better placed than most to deal with them.
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| Quote ="Mugwump"Isn't it comical the way certain Wigan players, who've demonstrated no form whatsoever for years, are now, at the end of their contracts (quite co-incidentally), rolling back the stone and striding forth like a modern-day Lazarus.
Says a lot about their motivation and commitment to the Cherry & White cause, does that...
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Yep, that's exactly what it is!
Nothing to do with having an improved coaching set up, a better squad of players taking the burden of others, an improving youth set up that are complimenting the 1st team more & more as every game/season goes on!
It's just because they'r playing for a new contract, that must account for Feka's improved form as well!
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| Quote ="Jukesays"Yep, that's exactly what it is!
Nothing to do with having an improved coaching set up, a better squad of players taking the burden of others, an improving youth set up that are complimenting the 1st team more & more as every game/season goes on!'"
You forgot the partridge in the pear tree.
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| Quote ="Mugwump"You forgot the partridge in the pear tree.'"
Just because your from Merseyside doesn't neccesarily mean your funny.
No reasoned response then?
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| Quote ="Jukesays"Just because your from Merseyside doesn't neccesarily mean your funny.
No reasoned response then?'"
If this were the first time I've heard such from Wigan fans declaring the Second Coming I'd probably bother. But it isn't. Not by a long, long way. So there's really no point repeating moth-eaten arguments that are subsequently proved correct - with comical regularity.
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| Quote ="Mugwump"If this were the first time I've heard such from Wigan fans declaring the Second Coming I'd probably bother. But it isn't. Not by a long, long way. So there's really no point repeating moth-eaten arguments that are subsequently proved correct - with comical regularity.'"
I'll take that as a No then?
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Not sure about Friday, we may very well get beaten, but the Wigan coming to the GPW on Friday is a totally different animal to the one that went there 2003/2008 that's for sure.
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| Quote ="Jukesays"I'll take that as a No then?
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Not sure about Friday, we may very well get beaten, but the Wigan coming to the GPW on Friday is a totally different animal to the one that went there 2003/2008 that's for sure.'"
I hate ditherers who trumpet the (dubious) virtues of their team from the highest mountain and then bottle out when it comes to predictions.
Show some balls, son.
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| Quote ="Mugwump"I hate ditherers who trumpet the (dubious) virtues of their team from the highest mountain and then bottle out when it comes to predictions.
=#FF0000Show some balls, son.'"
Please don't ask him to do that!!!!!!!!!
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| Quote ="Mugwump"I hate ditherers who trumpet the (dubious) virtues of their team from the highest mountain and then bottle out when it comes to predictions.
Show some balls, son.'"
Hate's a very strong word Sonny Boy! (See I can be Patronising as well).
As for trumpeting virtues Blah Blah Blah, I'll stay away from reasoned debate in future. It's obvious it's something I will struggle to get out of you.
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Saying "We may very well get beat" is not me "Bottling out of a prediction".
It's me saying that anyone who can 100% gaurantee that either team is going to win (Especially with you having to play 80 more mins at Hudds & us not knowing the injury situation from Friday) next Friday is a Liar, You show some Balls Boyo and put your money where your Mouth is if your so 100% sure who's going to win!
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| I have balls.
Saints at a canter
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| Quote ="snowdog"where was feka last night ?'"
I'm lead to believe he's still lost in Haigh Hall after falling so far behind on one of the teams pre-season runs!
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| Quote ="Codarmysaint"I have balls.
Saints at a canter'"
It's a 50/50 game, it certainly wont be win at a canter either way. Wigan came to Saints last season twice and pushed us all the way, and I believe they are a much better side than they were last year. I'd love nothing more than the last Good Friday game to be a canter, but I highly doubt it, I think it could come down to an individual mistake or a piece of individual brilliance that could settle it.
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| Quote ="JLM23"It's a 50/50 game, it certainly wont be win at a canter either way. Wigan came to Saints last season twice and pushed us all the way, and I believe they are a much better side than they were last year. I'd love nothing more than the last Good Friday game to be a canter, but I highly doubt it, I think it could come down to an individual mistake or a piece of individual brilliance that could settle it.'"
I agree with you.
Wigan shirt for you by any chance?
AJ has the camera primed.
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| Quote ="Rogues Gallery"I agree with you.
Wigan shirt for you by any chance?
AJ has the camera primed.'"
Last Derby game at Knowsley road? Are you mad! There's a bet, but then there's an ultimate sin! I'll stick to my word because a bets a bet, but it wont be this weekend!
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