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| Quote ="saint at wire"Must admit that I'm a bit puzzled as well by the hole cladding idea (no pun intended).'"
They are very, very small holes. From a distance the stuff looks solid apparently but it lets air through and so eases the pressure on the structure. However, it doesn't let rain through, which appears to be the problem with the current arrangement!
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| Quote ="SaintsFan"icon_biggrin.gifRUMMER:
They are very, very small holes. From a distance the stuff looks solid apparently but it lets air through and so eases the pressure on the structure. However, it doesn't let rain through, which appears to be the problem with the current arrangement!'"
Something with 5mm holes cannot be waterproof.
If you doubt this get a sieve and poor water into it while placing said object over your head. If you are right you will remain dry. If you are not you will get a soaking.
What the cladding should do, when combined with the roof overhang and 4 metre wall, is make it less likely that water infiltrates in any significant quantity to the concourses.
I suspect the biggest impact will be psychological as people will feel that they are now indoors.
The proof however will be in the pudding, and it will be interesting to see how this innovative solution not only looks but works in real life. If it works well then we may see it used on other new stadium developments.
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| Quote ="The Chair Maker"Something with 5mm holes cannot be waterproof.
If you doubt this get a sieve and poor water into it while placing said object over your head. If you are right you will remain dry. If you are not you will get a soaking.
What the cladding should do, when combined with the roof overhang and 4 metre wall, is make it less likely that water infiltrates in any significant quantity to the concourses.
I suspect the biggest impact will be psychological as people will feel that they are now indoors.
The proof however will be in the pudding, and it will be interesting to see how this innovative solution not only looks but works in real life. If it works well then we may see it used on other new stadium developments.'"
Didn't realise that the original plans had not only the concourses open to the elements but also the rear of seating/standing areas in all stands apart from the south stand.
The cladding appears to cover /screen most of the rear sections of the stand as well as concourse areas unless I've got the plans upside down?
It's not very much of a shock that the rain was coming in but is a surprise that this was not covered in the original design when you are spending cicra £16M..
Hope it works .
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| Quote ="The Chair Maker"Something with 5mm holes cannot be waterproof.
If you doubt this get a sieve and poor water into it while placing said object over your head. If you are right you will remain dry. If you are not you will get a soaking.'"
Where does it say the holes will be 5mm? Aren't there 3mm options? Also, the degree of waterproofing will also be influenced by the angle of the cladding won't it? If it lays flat then surely the chances are higher of water getting through than if it is vertical? I can't tell from the photos whether the breeze block wall is lined up directly with the back of the stands. If it is then presumably the cladding would simply link the top of the wall with the base of the back of the stand?
Obviously, if the two are not lined up then there would need to be a roof between the wall and the cladding. Would a solid flat roof between the wall and the cladding influence wind resistence or does that just apply to vertical surfaces? I'm no engineer or physicist so I don't know.
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| On the official website someone asked whether season ticket holders will get to see the stadium first.
The response from Saints was that season ticket holders will be invited to an event in December.
What is this exactly? A friendly? Charity game? Or just a 'come have a look around so we can tick a box in a health & safety requirement' type of thing?
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| Saddened, I would imagine we will find out in December when an invitation drops through our letterboxes!
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| So.... are we having a boxing day game or not?
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| Quote ="Saddened!"On the official website someone asked whether season ticket holders will get to see the stadium first.
The response from Saints was that season ticket holders will be invited to an event in December.
What is this exactly? A friendly? Charity game? Or just a 'come have a look around so we can tick a box in a health & safety requirement' type of thing?'"
You have to have an event with a smaller crowd to get the safety certificate for any new stand/stands, so it'll be the same for a stadium. Probably just have a friendly on boxing day or something similar where season ticket holders can get in for free.
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| Quote ="The Chair Maker"Something with 5mm holes cannot be waterproof.
If you doubt this get a sieve and poor water into it while placing said object over your head. If you are right you will remain dry. If you are not you will get a soaking.
What the cladding should do, when combined with the roof overhang and 4 metre wall, is make it less likely that water infiltrates in any significant quantity to the concourses.
I suspect the biggest impact will be psychological as people will feel that they are now indoors.
The proof however will be in [the pudding, and it will be interesting to see how this innovative solution not only looks but works in real life. If it works well then we may see it used on other new stadium developments.'"
shoudn't be the proof be in the cladding not pudding C M il'l get me coat COYS
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| Quote ="Saddened!"On the official website someone asked whether season ticket holders will get to see the stadium first.
The response from Saints was that season ticket holders will be invited to an event in December.
What is this exactly? A friendly? Charity game? Or just a 'come have a look around so we can tick a box in a health & safety requirement' type of thing?'"
It's scheduled for 9th December.
There'll be 'stuff' going on on the pitch, but not a friendly as far as I know.
More like an open day, with entertainment, as I understand it.
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| Quote ="Cragganmore Kid"It's scheduled for 9th December.
There'll be 'stuff' going on on the pitch, but not a friendly as far as I know.
More like an open day, with entertainment, as I understand it.'"
Awesome. Am I allowed to boo Lance Hohaia?
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| Quote ="Saddened!"Awesome. Am I allowed to boo Lance Hohaia?'"
I'd expect nothing less.
And a chant, to the tune of "The Addams Family"
His name is Lance Hohaia
He's No Martin Offiah
If He Was Good He'd Be A Wire
Saints Recruitment Policy
Der der der
Sack The Board
Der der der
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Der der der der, der der der der, der der der der
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| Quote ="Cragganmore Kid"I'd expect nothing less.
And a chant, to the tune of "The Addams Family"
His name is Lance Hohaia
He's No Martin Offiah
If He Was Good He'd Be A Wire
Saints Recruitment Policy
Der der der
Sack The Board
Der der der
Sack The Board
Der der der der, der der der der, der der der der
Sack The Board.'"
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| Bumper picture edition today.
A trio of cranes to hoist the decorators onto the roof to paint all the steelwork
tarmacing the entrance road from Peasley cross. Note also the light columns that have been fitted up this road.
East stand and associated carpark. Just a big of tarmacing to go on the East stand. Light posts have also been fitted but no lights as of yet.
The pavement on Peasley cross lane to the "Stairway to Heaven" has been tarmaced
The completion of the bottom few rows of terracing has allowed the final row of safety barriers to be fitted. Both the East and West stands have seven rows of safety barriers. This gives you a sense of scale compared to the away end at Warrington which only has 5 rows of barriers. Or the ends at the new Salford stadium which have just two rows of barriers.
The directors box, looks very smart
Completed turnstyle entrance in the north East corner. Note the workman clearing away rubbish,and the tree planted close to the entrance
The North stand and car park showing the light posts that have been fitted
Brickies at work close to the North stand. It looks like they are building up an access tunnel for a drain.
Shot of the North stand showing that the car park is marked out and nearly complete
Turnstyle block in the north west corner
One of the big cranes behind the west stand.
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| Part 2
touching up the paintwork on the roof supports
and an arty version
The perimeter fence of the executive boxes has also been filled in with a mesh like barrier
The steamroller was trimming the edges of the tarmac
The entrance form Peasley cross lane showing the landscaping that has gone in.
another layer of the blackstuff being layed
looking up the side of the South stand we can see they have started tarmacing the pavement
The South stand.
The phase 2 area of the development, near the site offices, showing that quite a large part of this area can be turned into a temporary car park on match days.
Tree and bush planting alongside the South stand
Looking towards the South West corner we can see the landscaping in this area.
onto part 3
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Now the views from the Tesco side
The petrol station
The Tesco's and the stadium, both nearly complete
The main Tesco entrance has now all been grassed. In the background the Petrol station is nearing completion
looking towards the stadium we see a large expanse of green grass
fitting of the lighting
A regiment of shopping trolleys stands ready for action.
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| Nice Pics CM
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| Great pics fellas!
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| Great updates as usual fellas.
Must be honest, at this stage, from the inside it looks great, from the outside 50% looks awesome, 50% looks terrible, but then the ground isn't finished so will have to see how it looks when done.
One question, how will the turnstyles look when finished? They have the large red cladded frame, and then the turnstyles only go half way up, will there be something filling this gap? Are there any already completed?
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| Great pictures. The stadium looks great! I'm really impressed with it. Obviously, I won't be coming up for any Crusaders games next year, but will try and get to a few other games, as I really want to go to the ground. Nice to see a good view people in wheelchairs(I presume the pic before the directors box, those seats in the corner and at the top of the stand are for wheelchair access?).
Looking forward to visiting the stadium some time next season or maybe even in pre-season. Have you any home pre-season games schedueled in the stadium and when is it handed over to the club?
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