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Redundancy does not apply once they went into administration. The reason why an employer would not be too hot on these details, is because employers do not need to know.
Lay-off
It is possible your employer is not officially insolvent but they still cannot pay you. In this case, they could be forced to lay you off or put you on short time.
What you can claim
You can claim for all your outstanding pay from the insolvency practitioner. There is no guarantee that the full amount you are owed will be paid as this depends on whether enough funds are raised from the sale of your employer’s assets.
Some debts, including holiday pay and wages, will be 'preferential debt' when your employer’s assets are shared out. This means they must be paid before certain other debts.
As full payment cannot be guaranteed, there are special arrangements for employees to claim the basic minimum of debts owed to them from the National Insurance Fund. These claims are:
redundancy
wages - up to a maximum of eight weeks
holiday pay - up to a maximum of six weeks
compensatory notice pay - one week after one calendar month's service rising to one week per year of service up to a maximum of 12 weeks (new earnings will be taken into account)
There is a limit of £400 a week (£430 a week from 1 February 2012) on the amount you can claim for your weekly pay.
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Redundancy does not apply once they went into administration. The reason why an employer would not be too hot on these details, is because employers do not need to know.
Lay-off
It is possible your employer is not officially insolvent but they still cannot pay you. In this case, they could be forced to lay you off or put you on short time.
What you can claim
You can claim for all your outstanding pay from the insolvency practitioner. There is no guarantee that the full amount you are owed will be paid as this depends on whether enough funds are raised from the sale of your employer’s assets.
Some debts, including holiday pay and wages, will be 'preferential debt' when your employer’s assets are shared out. This means they must be paid before certain other debts.
As full payment cannot be guaranteed, there are special arrangements for employees to claim the basic minimum of debts owed to them from the National Insurance Fund. These claims are:
redundancy
wages - up to a maximum of eight weeks
holiday pay - up to a maximum of six weeks
compensatory notice pay - one week after one calendar month's service rising to one week per year of service up to a maximum of 12 weeks (new earnings will be taken into account)
There is a limit of £400 a week (£430 a week from 1 February 2012) on the amount you can claim for your weekly pay.
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| Quote ="bewareshadows"Redundancy does not apply once they went into administration. The reason why an employer would not be too hot on these details, is because employers do not need to know.
Lay-off
It is possible your employer is not officially insolvent but they still cannot pay you. In this case, they could be forced to lay you off or put you on short time.
What you can claim
You can claim for all your outstanding pay from the insolvency practitioner. There is no guarantee that the full amount you are owed will be paid as this depends on whether enough funds are raised from the sale of your employer’s assets.
Some debts, including holiday pay and wages, will be 'preferential debt' when your employer’s assets are shared out. This means they must be paid before certain other debts.
As full payment cannot be guaranteed, there are special arrangements for employees to claim the basic minimum of debts owed to them from the National Insurance Fund. These claims are:
redundancy
wages - up to a maximum of eight weeks
holiday pay - up to a maximum of six weeks
compensatory notice pay - one week after one calendar month's service rising to one week per year of service up to a maximum of 12 weeks (new earnings will be taken into account)
There is a limit of £400 a week (£430 a week from 1 February 2012) on the amount you can claim for your weekly pay.'"
Spot on. Forget about employment law when in administration, the administrator can sack everyone if he wants to. I am actually surprised all the players have survived. |
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| Quote ="Noel Cleal"Spot on. Forget about employment law when in administration, the administrator can sack everyone if he wants to. I am actually surprised all the players have survived.'"
So far!!!
They get their marching orders tomorrow....
There are some interesting You Tube clips on from the fans meeting tonight.
ps I can't take credit for the knowledge, cut and pasted from direct gov. |
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Bulls players were called into a meeting today by the administrator. Who then didn't show up at all and didn't cancel the meeting.
See here: https://twitter.com/#!/Jarrod_Sammut
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Bulls players were called into a meeting today by the administrator. Who then didn't show up at all and didn't cancel the meeting.
See here: https://twitter.com/#!/Jarrod_Sammut
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| Quote ="Noel Cleal"Spot on. Forget about employment law when in administration, the administrator can sack everyone if he wants to. I am actually surprised all the players have survived.'"
I would imagine, from an administrator point of view, the players are the only real source of income (ie no players, no games, no money). |
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To arrange a meeting with the players and then not turn up is appalling. The man should be hung, drawn and quartered for playing with people like that. Scumbag.
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| Quote ="SaintsFan"To arrange a meeting with the players and then not turn up is appalling. The man should be hung, drawn and quartered for playing with people like that. Scumbag.'"
You don't know why though. It could be that he's had to divert to a vital meeting about securing the future of the club? |
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| Quote ="Saddened!"You don't know why though. It could be that he's had to divert to a vital meeting about securing the future of the club?'"
I'm sure he'd have rung ahead or sent some sort of message, if that was the case. |
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| Quote ="Saddened!"You don't know why though. It could be that he's had to divert to a vital meeting about securing the future of the club?'"
No, it wasn't as it turned out. He's issued a statement. He said he had no updates to give the players and so thought they could 'have a day off'. He allegedly told the captain the night before but apparently it was too late for 'the captain' to communicate everything to the players.
Nothing like pushing the blame elsewhere! He's still a scumbag. He's playing games again now, saying that a previous potential investor who had said no is now looking again due to the 'commitment of the fans'. I wouldn't be surprised if that investor mysteriously disappears before Friday.
[url=http://www.code13rugbyleague.com/2012/07/03/bulls-administrator-issues-statement/?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitterHere's the statement.[/url |
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| Quote ="Noel Cleal"Spot on. Forget about employment law when in administration, the administrator can sack everyone if he wants to. I am actually surprised all the players have survived.'"
Administrators aren't gods and can be challenged (see Rangers case ad nauseum). The original question was whether they can make Potter redundant and then hire a replacement (Nobby). The answer is not; at least not legally as it would just be seen a false device to replace staff.
In this case it won't apply as Nobby is not going to be employed as such as he is offering his services free of charge for the remainder of the season out of a (some would say mis-guided) sense of civic duty. |
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| Quote ="Saddened!"You don't know why though. It could be that he's had to divert to a vital meeting about securing the future of the club?'"
As SF says he is still a scumbag and he had no excuse for cancelling the meeting.
As Potter said when he was asked to work for nothing: "I'm sure he's not working for nothing as an administrator."
I work in the finance "industry" (  ) and there is something fishy going on here. The previous directors said they were almost halfway to the target to see the season out, but then get binned by the majority shareholders who then put in this guy who says he has found a new black hole and the club cannot continue. Even if this is true, why have they shot themselves in the foot as their investment was effectively worthless anyway?  |
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Has Bullman & Bull boy gone too, or is the administrator planning on appointing them to coach the team this Sunday ? - seriously this is getting beyond a joke
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He is the king of cut & paste.
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There are rumours that Cas are in a similar position with insuffient cash to continue long term. Not sure how true it is.
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| Quote ="Saddened!"There are rumours that Cas are in a similar position with insuffient cash to continue long term. Not sure how true it is.'"
Well, they are on a signing frenzy at the moment so they don't look like a club about to collapse. However, on reflection, signings are probably not concrete evidence of where a club is financially. After all, Saints have just recorded a £2.4 million loss for 2011 and we signed for this season. |
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| Quote ="Saddened!"There are rumours that Cas are in a similar position with insuffient cash to continue long term. Not sure how true it is.'"
A club a little closer to home have big problems. |
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| Quote ="St pete"A club a little closer to home have big problems.'"
WIGAN!!!!!!!!!  |
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| Quote ="Top Saint"WIGAN!!!!!!!!!
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| Quote ="No1 Saint"Leigh are perennially skint....'"
They have been in administration three times since 1990 apparently. |
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Salford. It is well known they are struggling and have lost revenues that they had at the willows.
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| Quote ="Agent Mulder"Salford. It is well known they are struggling and have lost revenues that they had at the willows.'"
I can't think how they ever thought it would work; so far from their already small fanbase, no public transport and no willows club to subsidise them.
Feel really sorry for Wilinson; he seems a really nice genuine guy. It must break his heart seeing the half brand new empty stadium.
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