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| Quote ="Horatio Yed"I wouldn't worry about the Wigan 'souvenirs', you can leave some in Wigan Athletics stadium to get them back.'"
We all know that there were Saints momento's buried under the JJB pitch back when it was built so it's horses for courses.
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| I didn't realise there were any Polish wigan fans, learn something new every day
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| Laughable if those stands are being left open like that.
The HJ will no longer be lego next season, saints stadium won't even be that.
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| Quote ="Sadfish"We all know that there were Saints momento's buried under the JJB pitch back when it was built so it's horses for courses.'"
hidden among the thousand of bin bags.
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| Quote ="The Chair Maker"
My only real criticism of the stands other than the South stand is the lack of colour, when compared to that stand. However whats to stop the East and West stands getting a lick of paint put on them before stadium opening day, to brighten them up.
With the backs of the stands being open to the air, this will make for a beer garden like feel on a warm summers day, rather than being stuck inside a dark concrete box.
On cold and wet days, the high 4 meter wall, combined with the large overhang of the roofline, will keep the concourses dry and sheltered from the worst of the weather to a greater extent than that afforded the pitch side terracing.'"
Good post tbh.
In terms of the colour, there is no branding on the ground at all yet, so you may get colour with Saints logos and sponsors names on there. Also, the main stand having more colour than the other parts of the ground is no bad thing, it gives the main entrance a grand feel about it.
In terms of the stands being open, I think you have the right attitude. The simple fact is that we just need to wait and see how it looks when it is finished, but as you say, it could be really pleasant in summer, as well as having enough protection from the elements in bad weather.
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| Quote ="Odemwingie"Laughable if those stands are being left open like that.
The HJ will no longer be lego next season, saints stadium won't even be that.'"
Whatever. How is Wigan's stadium coming along? I hear you are looking to move out of your rented one soon?
The fact the stand is left open won't be much of an issue I've decided. It's just a bit of daylight around the standing areas when it's light and it'll be dark for half the season anyway. I don't see what the big deal is provided the wind isn't funnelling through the stadium when it's cold, but we'll have to wait and see on that. At least i'll be in the North Stand so will be able to get my pie and pint in the warmth rather than freezing to death.
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| Quote ="Saddened!"Whatever. How is Wigan's stadium coming along? I hear you are looking to move out of your rented one soon?
The fact the stand is left open won't be much of an issue I've decided. It's just a bit of daylight around the standing areas when it's light and it'll be dark for half the season anyway. I don't see what the big deal is provided the wind isn't funnelling through the stadium when it's cold, but we'll have to wait and see on that. At least i'll be in the North Stand so will be able to get my pie and pint in the warmth rather than freezing to death.'"
Don't switch the debate around. You know I'm right, it looks terrible appart from the main stand.
We play in one of the top two facilities in the league. Not looking to move out. We pay A LOT less to play in that stadium than your running costs will be and we play in the better facility. I know we don't own it, but we pay peanuts for a class facility and it won't be a problem when the tics get relegated, the stadium issue will no longer exist.
You know it looks terrible, but you want to make something good of it. I would be the same. You know that it is not what quite you wanted and you are disapointed, not exactly the end of the world though.
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| Quote ="Odemwingie"Don't switch the debate around. You know I'm right, it looks terrible appart from the main stand.
We play in one of the top two facilities in the league. Not looking to move out. We pay A LOT less to play in that stadium than your running costs will be and we play in the better facility. I know we don't own it, but we pay peanuts for a class facility and it won't be a problem when the tics get relegated, the stadium issue will no longer exist.
You know it looks terrible, but you want to make something good of it. I would be the same. You know that it is not what quite you wanted and you are disapointed, not exactly the end of the world though.'"
Looks terrible because the ends don't have cladding up to the roof? It looks fine.
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| Saints stadium looks better than Wigan Warriors stadium
I think it'll be one of the premier places to watch rugby when it's finished. (Saints that is)
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| Quote ="Saddened!"Looks terrible because the ends don't have cladding up to the roof?
It looks fine.'"
=#FF0000Saddened! wrote:Sounds horrific. If they've run out of money to clad the outside (Not a massive expense) then how are they going to finish the internals? Or are they not going to bother with that as well? And what about the seats? Are we actually going to have seats?
I think you are just putting on a brave face. Lets be honest it will look unfinished. It will just be a few supporting peices of metal with a brick wall. Hardly the 'smaller version of wembley' some of your fans dreamed of.
It will look pretty poor. Good stadium though.
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| Quote ="Odemwingie"=#FF0000Saddened! wrote:Sounds horrific. If they've run out of money to clad the outside (Not a massive expense) then how are they going to finish the internals? Or are they not going to bother with that as well? And what about the seats? Are we actually going to have seats?
I think you are just putting on a brave face. Lets be honest it will look unfinished. It will just be a few supporting peices of metal with a brick wall. Hardly the 'smaller version of wembley' some of your fans dreamed of.
It will look pretty poor. Good stadium though.'"
My concern above was because the poster that mentioned it's not being cladded said it was due to financial constraints. I'd not convinced they'll leave it as it is now as it looks very 'doable' to me. But you have to remember it's still a building site. Once they add paint, logos, sponsors, advertising, flags etc it will look very different to what it does now. And what does the appearance of the outside matter? It's the viewing angle, the atmosphere and the facilities that make a stadium. Those are on course to be fantastic.
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| Quote ="Odemwingie"Don't switch the debate around. You know I'm right, it looks terrible appart from the main stand.
We play in one of the top two facilities in the league. Not looking to move out. We pay A LOT less to play in that stadium than your running costs will be and we play in the better facility. I know we don't own it, but we pay peanuts for a class facility and it won't be a problem when the tics get relegated, the stadium issue will no longer exist.
You know it looks terrible, but you want to make something good of it. I would be the same. You know that it is not what quite you wanted and you are disapointed, not exactly the end of the world though.'"
I would rather pay a bit more and play in our OWN new stadium than pay DW to rent the stadium and get told by footballers when you can and cant play at home...at least when ours is built we wont have to give up home advantage of playoff games and take them to a neutral venue because the wendyball is more important!!
Who would have ever thought it?? The mighty Wigan RL...Wigan Athletic's bi@tch!!
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| Quote ="Odemwingie"Don't switch the debate around. You know I'm right, it looks terrible appart from the main stand.
We play in one of the top two facilities in the league. .'"
have you been to the ground, had a good look at all four stands, the stadium is fantastic, with or without cladding.
True the piedome is a great stadium, when they let you use it.
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Interesting to note that Saints Official FB account has posted that the stadium will be fully enclosed (less the top "air" gap) sooner rather than later indicating it might even be ready for the start of the season!
www.facebook.com/OfficialSt.HelensRLFC See response to David Garner today.
I'd hope from the wording they will get any required finance in place and expect the work on it in late Jan/Feb
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Interesting to note that Saints Official FB account has posted that the stadium will be fully enclosed (less the top "air" gap) sooner rather than later indicating it might even be ready for the start of the season!
www.facebook.com/OfficialSt.HelensRLFC See response to David Garner today.
I'd hope from the wording they will get any required finance in place and expect the work on it in late Jan/Feb
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| Quote ="Chris Saint"Interesting to note that Saints Official FB account has posted that the stadium will be fully enclosed (less the top "air" gap) sooner rather than later indicating it might even be ready for the start of the season! '"
This is the response you refer to (for those not on Facebook):
[iYes, but it might not be ready for the beginning of the season as timings are tight[/i
Nowhere does he mention the 'top air gap' as you call it. Just like there is no mention of the application for planning permission being sought for the North Stand. It was a very good answer but not the same as the one I was given.
I'm sure applications for planning permission can be found on the St Helens Council website?
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| Quote ="SaintsFan"This is the response you refer to (for those not on Facebook):
[iYes, but it might not be ready for the beginning of the season as timings are tight[/i
Nowhere does he mention the 'top air gap' as you call it. Just like there is no mention of the application for planning permission being sought for the North Stand. It was a very good answer but not the same as the one I was given.
I'm sure applications for planning permission can be found on the St Helens Council website?'"
I only mention the gap as i believed it mandatory from other information passed out previously regarding stability issues. Be interesting if this is actually the case.
As for conflicting answers its probably down to how well informed people are, in the sense some people will have to fill in some gaps, it being an official club release I'd hope its accurate and not the diplomatic stance. Its lots of speculation and until we get finished pictures or see it ourselves we aren't going to know.
Planning amendments there are several if you search planning at peasley cross lane, a lot of them point to none material changes nonetheless nothing specifically appears to be relevant to any stands/cladding mostly parking and access.
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| posted on redvee this morning
looking classy
and how good does that turf look? wonderful
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| Looks fantastic!!! Think I can see my seat.
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| Quote ="roader"Your gold coloured seat will look odd among all that red.
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| Odemwingie's trolling aside, this is going to be one of, if not THE, best RL ground in the country. Not as big as KC or DW but purpose built and very classy. I am, as a Wigan fan, slightly jealous of this new stadium.
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