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| Just shows Wigan are half the side without their cowardly tactics
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| Wigan:-
World Cup Challenge ....losers!
Challenge Cup .... losers!
League Leaders Shield .... losers!
Play-off Championship .... losers!
The rest of the world of rugby league .... winners!
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| Wiganers already busy re-writting history on the VT and Wigan boards.
It was naughty lance sir he started it all.
The wigan SKy broadcasters give a nice clear shot of Lance hitting Flower, but only breifly gloss over the fact, Flower had already given Lance a fore arm smash from behind earlier on in this sequence.
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| Lance's forearm was worthy of a penalty for sure, but it was a pushing motion, an aggressive shove that would be penalty sufficient if put before the disciplinary committee. Flower starts it with the punch/swinging arm to the back of Hohaia's head, which again is penalty sufficient.
Flower's first punch was bad and worthy of a red under today's rules. Too clean a hit to get away with it, but with it being a GF he would probably have got away on report had he not followed it with the second punch.
That was the worst thing you'll see on any sporting field for many a year. He should be facing criminal charges and the RFL should throw the book at him for it. It's unacceptable and IMO Wigan and Wane are letting themselves down massively by not dealing with it either.
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| Flower is $hit anyway, what an idiot.
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| Quote ="terrykelly"Flower is $hit anyway, what an idiot.'"
A Leigh fan would know all about $hit players to be fair.
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| Quote ="RIGSBY"he should be thrown out the game..if u did that in the steet you'd be in the cells now...still what can u expect when youv'e got a plonker like wane telling em go out and do it!'"
Too right.
Remember Darren Ferguson at Rangers?
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| Well time for me to get some sleep and let the lies build up on VT.
I'm sure by the morning it will all be Lances' fault and Wane will want a rematch for unjustified sending off.
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| Quote ="bewareshadows"and Wane will want a rematch for unjustified sending off.'"
Just so you can't post any more garbage about Wane:
Quote “I’m not even going to try and defend him,” said Wane. “It was a red card – he punched him in the head and deserved to go. I have had a chat with Ben and he’s devastated. He’s done some good things for me and he’s made a huge error. We move on and we are all in it together.
“I can’t explain it. He was revved up, it was a rush of blood, a Wigan and Saints derby. Rugby league’s a tough game, but that tipped over the edge.”'"
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| Quote ="saint at wire"Too right.
Remember Darren Ferguson at Rangers?'"
Wasn't it Duncan Ferguson?
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| Quote ="lionarmour87"Wasn't it Duncan Ferguson?'"
Yeah, did 9 months inside for headbutting someone. A Union player also did time for a violence related incident and even in League legal action has been taken against players.
Having won, I'm 99.99% sure Hohaia and Saints won't push it any further. But if they did, Flower could easily be in court pretty soon.
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| I'd 100% press legal charges.
I'll happily go toe to toe with the big fat mess in Lance's honour. Vile creature who doesn't deserve a contract in our great sport.
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| Quote ="Saddened!"Yeah, did 9 months inside for headbutting someone. A Union player also did time for a violence related incident and even in League legal action has been taken against players.
Having won, I'm 99.99% sure Hohaia and Saints won't push it any further. But if they did, Flower could easily be in court pretty soon.'"
Wrong! Duncan Ferguson did 44 days of a 3 months prison sentence for an headbutt on the pitch.
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| Anyone, who feels inclined to do so, can report the matter to the Police via the Merseyside or GMP Police website.
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| I would hope no Saints fan does this.
It's not a great image, but lets leave it in the hands of the RFL to sort out.
Yes it was a sickening shot on a prone man, but if the courts get involved in this, why not spear tackles etc....
It's a can of worms you risk opening.
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| You know, there was a time - not too long ago - when blatantly committing a red card offence might evoke the radical suggestion that the player [imeant [/ito get sent off.
Introduce Hohaia's unique importance to Saints and Wigan's #1 defence and now everyone's eyes are rolling back in 1985. [i"Future people sure are dumb!"[/i
For twenty years Alex Murphy was blamed for every stiff arm his players were penalised for.
Good job SL stamped all that out, tho...
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| We've all seen the doco warriors down under and that's pretty clear what Wane tells his players to do.
"I'm giving you the freedom to be reckless" was one comment. That's why they step over the line and Wane has to should've the blame for getting his players foaming at the mouth instead of controlled emotion.
After the assault on Lance, we all got into a big group and said let's calm this down, don't let the emotion get in the way.
The pies was stood there foaming at the mouth ready for war.
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| Cannonball tackle coming to a game near wigan 2015. The new season ad campaign.
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| Just drove past Robins Park in Wigan this morning, noticed an old trophy cabinet thrown into the skip at B + Q.
Everywhere is like a Ghost Town.
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| Quote ="BackrowSaint"I'd 100% press legal charges.
I'll happily go toe to toe with the big fat mess in Lance's honour. Vile creature who doesn't deserve a contract in our great sport.'"
“Toe to toe” I hope by that you are not suggesting violence? (I’m sure you aren’t) Because as we saw last night violence is not only wrong in society it is certainly unacceptable in our great sport. A sense of to win at all costs, a rush of blood to the head, an instinctive retaliation, none of these can be given as excuses for any kind of violent behaviour, and I’m sure you would agree with me that the promotion, or even suggestion of any kind of violence has no place on these boards. Last night’s incident not only ruined what should have been a great spectacle of sport, but was an insult to the integrity of our great game. Brutish behaviour must be suppressed in sport, sociality, and the internet.
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| Quote ="BackrowSaint"I'd 100% press legal charges.
I'll happily go toe to toe with the big fat mess in Lance's honour. Vile creature who doesn't deserve a contract in our great sport.'"
What happens on the field stays on the field IMO. I don't think any legal action should taken or we are going into a lot of trouble ahead.
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| Quote ="St pete"What happens on the field stays on the field IMO. I don't think any legal action should taken or we are going into a lot of trouble ahead.'"
Completely agree. Flower has had his punishment in probably single handedly losing his team the GF, The RFL will probably add 7-8 matches at the start of next season to that.
Wonder if he'll get the move to Hull he wanted now?
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| Quote ="St pete"What happens on the field stays on the field IMO. I don't think any legal action should taken or we are going into a lot of trouble ahead.'"
I think the RFL need to handle it correctly though for the future of the sport, Wigoons style is a damaging one that you don,t want creeping into the game at school boy level . If it does it might reduce the no of people playing this game as the kids try to emulate the professionals resulting in long term physical injuries.
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| It's wonderful that even following a comprehensive defeat Wigan as a club become even more despised by the rest of the RL community
I doubt there is a neutral around today that has an ounce of sympathy for them
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| Lets put this in the context of Boxing. Hitting a KO'd opponent during the count would get you a life ban. Easy!!!.
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