Are you kidding me? Under Millward it was THE biggest rollercoaster ride possible.

You've read a hell of a lot into my post sunshine. I'm wondering where I insinuated that I thought we had the divine right to win games? Or that Potter was to blame? Give me a shout when you find out. I was simply asking if people thought we had lost the knack of winning close games. You think so and are glad. Great, question answered.

Open your eyes pal. It's great to lose, you know?

Aye, I'm feeling great because of this loss tonight.

Im acknowledging change; Look what it did for Wigan. Im not happy about the result from tonight obviously but its been a while since the crowd has been involved as much as they were tonight against a "lower club".

Its not the end of the world

when have we jammed games in the last min? and i think youll find only sitting below you because youve played a game in hand and we've had a season thats only just starting now....come the end of the season id hazard a guess that we'll be above you by a few points

Sorry pal just because i tell it like it is....I think the only lads who need to wipe their underpants are your 15

tonight after $h1ttin emselves of a poor wakey side!!

Like thats gonna bother me....he was probably in Pizza Hut applying for a job the daft $h1t!!

saints love child and jizz material paul wellens loses them the game.

You couldn't make this sh*t up.

I wonder if you're starting to wake up to how average, bog standard, run of the mill he is.

From what i've read on here it wasn't just his kicking that was poor.

Shock horror, Wigan fan still living in the past thinking they still have a divine right to finish above the likes of Wakey and Cas. You are now a mediocre team battling it out with the likes of us Cas Hull KR Quins and Wire for a play off spot. Get over yourself and live in the now Andy

Very much doubt it Wigan are sticking by him and he will be coaching kids, thank God it wont be my kids.

The salary cap is evening things out. No team can have an overly powerful squad or be expected to dominate.

I think its great going to the GPW and watching matches were the result is in doubt until the final whistle.
Who wants to watch opposition teams turn up lie down and let Saints role all over them. Not me.

Thats gone now and thank goodness for it. In the long run it will mean clubs will need to find ways of having that edge, that means players and coaches will need to raise the bar.

We'll see.....the only team thats realistically going to break the Stains Leeds GF combo by some distance is wigan, even after our p155 poor season so far...can you REALLY see wakey, wire, cas, or hudds getting to a GF?!

Id say wire and hudds are better than wigan, the rest i mentioned are on par. Wigan aren't a force any more. Fact. Name yes, force, no.

I tend to think in pressure rugby, wigan will have the ability to raise their game and play better than wakey et al. That's just my opinion.

I fear Hudds, Hull Kr, Quins, Wakey and Wire over your shower of sh*te!

One thing that goes for us is we're used to playing under pressure but usually for the wrong reasons ie to stay in the league, also Kear has an uncanny knack of getting the best out of players in knock out competitions.

So does Brian Noble.

IMO i'd fear wigan in a playoff game more than wakey.

Saints got a bad call with the pinball head on try.

Grix played the ball and the kick came in and rebounded all over the place.

There were no knock ons but Grix was in front of the kicker, so cannot touch the ball as he was within the 10..

It should have been a penalty to Saints.


Wakefield also got a couple of bad calls but not so decisive as that one.

What's that then? The universal language of utter gibberish?

Yes we are weaker this year but how can you blame potter?

He took over the current squad.

If saints board think we can let 4 players go every year and not replace them with experiance then we are in for massive shock next year.

IMO we are now paying the price for not recruting players for last 2 seasons.

If we don't sign 2 props next year then we will struggle big time.

I thought the last time it was allowed to head the ball for a try was the John Harrison one, then it was banned......has the law been changed now.

Harrison deliberately headed the ball, that didn't happen tonight, but Grix was in front of the kicker, so technically offside, and can't be inside the 10 even if a Saints player touches the ball.

I thought it was fair try. Nothing wrong with it at all IMO

Carvill last week, Grix this week, any forecast on a Harlequin player next week.