i know i have already said this but i think we shoud deffinetly have knowsley road on it seen as though we are getting a new ground and most of all all the good memories there.

Find me a picture of KR you could make look remotely artist and wouldnt't clutter it up and we could use it as a background.

how do you insert a picture on this

Put Briers on it.

you need to upload it to somewhere like photobucket then post the image location inside the img tags.

That isn't a fair comparison.

could you not do it. just search on google images

I said, if you can find one we can make artistic, we'll look at it. If it is already hosted online, just copy the image location, and then paste the image location here.

Les Jones might have made a lot of appearances but he wasn't a legend for me.

I posted this on redvee last night following some things posted there and i think it works as a response to some of the posts/opinions here including Chair's about a slight bias toward certain generations.



I think it is much easier for us to look back at players like Newlove who played as part of a succesful team and perhaps put a gloss on our memories of them as a result of the team's achievements during their tenure, much in the same way that the youngest generation of Saints fans are doing with Jamie Lyon right now. These players were undoubtedly terrific, stand-out players in their sides who gave a great service to the red vee during but to include them in such lists in my opinion does a disservice to players like Alan Hunte, Anthony Sullivan, and Paul Loughlin who whilst not costing world record fees or being media darlings contributed no less (and often more in terms of points, tries and appearances and more) to the Saints' cause.

That's a fair comment, however Sullivan wouldn't even be in consideration were it not for Newlove playing on the inside of him.

I know Mc i just had to throw someone else in there from the list of top points scorers i was looking at at the time



Although that said i've just seen that he was scoring consistantly in the 20+ try bracket for two seasons prior to Newlove's arrival.

For me people are looking too closely at how 'great' a player was...

But to me the TIFO is about mroe than that.

It is about the history, heritage and traditions of the club - anf the memories of the fans on the back of them.

For example, the reason I suggested a heavy contingent of St. Helens born players is because we can be proud of some of the players we produced throughout time.

Not only this, but so called 'good club players' on there were Characters in there own right. Haggy was wholehearted and proud to play for his hometown club. He was a humble but tough player who would always give 110%. I would rather have one or two players like this than a so called superstar who had a fleeting time at the club.

Look at the bigger picture.

Get this on teh banner

The bloke stood next to Jamie Lyon looks like someone out of 'Dawn of the Dead', who is it????



O/T You making an appearance this Friday Syddley? These part-timers do my head in!

Good points. Nothing wrong with fans favourites or players who were just popular or big characters.

why not? fans favourite, iconic character in the clubs history, rubbish player. The only difference being that Matautia actually won medals.

Thanks to Sadfish again

Great that Ski, well done.

Top notch.

nice

What! Briers but no Newlove

Quotes sent for

Qualiteh.

Good work all, looks class.

After this, I trust the next banner will read:

"Mr Phil's Financial Advice will rip your spleen out."