Did they mention the prize money? 3rd highest pile of cash is 3rd, for me.

The question I asked was, Is the prize money and final league positions decided after the weekly rounds or after the play offs? Did Warrington finish 3rd or 5th? Did they receive prize money for 3rd or 5th?

I'm sure the money allocated to the clubs is dependant on positions =#FF0000after the play offs.

Do you think that Saints, Wire, Leeds etc got the same amount as Wigan?

As I posted they have been wrong in the past, I asked a question at the start of the season, I wasn't sure about their reply, I then re-sent the same question a week later and got a totally different reply. Lets see what reply I get this time as I have re sent the question.

I was under the impression that prize money and final standings where decided after the play offs and not the weekly rounds.

its great when you just make any stuff up and state it as fact.
Classic!!!!

Presumably you thought the same when we appointed Tony Smith?

So do you think that Crusaders got the same prize money as Leeds and Warrington?

Or that Leeds and Huddersfield got the same prize money as Wigan or Saints.

When a team loses in the Challenge Cup semi final, do they get the same money as the ones knocked out in the first round?

Just back on topic....the next year or so is going to be very interesting at Leeds. Hetherington seems to have brought forward by a year the planned revamp of the squad that was being mooted.

When I look at the squad for next year, we will probably be better balanced without Diskin/Buderus in rotation, and Cross will add a bit of grunt, but even when everyone's fit we have some issues even on paper. Someone else mentioned earlier in this thread that Leeds don't have a yard-making second row. I'd say that given Lauti'iti's limited game time we also really lack a second row who hits the line hard and threatens the defence, particularly on their own line - IMO its been a real weakness for Leeds since Ellis left. With Eastwood gone we're even lighter in the category of forwards who can break the line.

We have other issues too. Burrow needs to develop his game as McGuire started to last season, and we need to quickly sort out left centre, as with Delaney on the other side we don't look particularly (or at least regularly) threatening out wide.

Anyway, I think its quite exciting to be in this period. This isn't a revamp forced on Leeds by mass retirements or because we're rubbish, we're doing it from a relatively good position. Sts should be Leeds' model for that, as you've managed to overcome the loss of lots of good players and stay very competitive.

As to whether McDermott's the right man...only time will tell. I'm not overly inspired by his appointment, but if he can get a decent assistant from Australia who can bring the latest ideas, then it may work.

From what our chairman and chief exec have said in the past, getting to the GF is worth about £50k, winning is largely irrelevant moneywise, where as getting to the CC final is worth roughly £500k, again win or lose

You don't think Tony Smith did a good job at Huddersfield?

Rogues is right in that final official position is determined how you do in the playoffs, not how you do in the league.
Otherwise when Saints finished top of the league but then got beat by Leeds in the grand final, Saints would be able to say they came first. Thereby making a mockery of the grand final and the playoffs.

Prize money was also historically determined this way. However this year Wigan also received something for finishing first in the league. This hasnt been the case in the past and may explain some of the confusion.

Rogues isn't right because being top of the league is an achievement in itself as recognised by the league leaders shield and the attendant prize money. The Grand Final is the culmination of the play off competition, which is a separate knock out competition and separate from but determined by the league placings at the end of the regular league season. For us that was a sneak into second in the match against Castleford.

Saints did come first in the seasons when we topped the league table at the end of the regular league season but we did not become champions. We became champions only when we won the Grand Final. It has been like that for most of the Superleague era (bar the first two seasons, if memory serves). So one team can be champions and another team league leaders (first).

As I said I would ask the question again, and this time I did get a better answer. Please find below a better explanation of how it works. Clearing up the question once and for all.

So basically what the RFL said is what we already knew anyway: a team wins the Grand Final and wins the biggest amount of prize money; a team loses the Grand Final and wins the second biggest prize money. And the league leaders, being first in the league, also win prize money. No mention is made of those teams that did not make it to the Grand Final.

What I understood Rogues to be asking was what happened to those teams who finished high enough in the league at the end of the regular season but who did not make it to the Grand Final. The email from the RFL doesn't clear that one up. I don't think it made any difference at all in that they simply didn't make it to the Grand Final but Rogues seems to think that where they reached in the playoffs changes their league position, even though the league finished with Wigan as first (top) getting the prize money for being first (top).

Yes it does,
It says "The Super League prize money is determined by where the club in question finishes at the end of the play-off series."

It does not just mean first and second.
So the prize money was distributed like this

Wigan
Saints
Leeds
Huddersfield
Warrington
HKR
Hull
Crusaders.

I think this is where I came in.


However I'm not sure of the exact proportions.

It doesn't. It says this:


The league table doesn't change. That means 1st remains 1st, 2nd remains 2nd, etc. The reference to 'as above' is citing Wigan and Saints, referring directly to the Grand Final. There is no mention of other teams in the playoffs. I didn't even know there WAS prize money for non-Grand Final playoff teams and the information quoted from the RFL does not say that there is. It says that the league table doesn't change and then poses what we all knew about the Grand Final anyway: that the winner gets the biggest prize money regardless of where they were in the league table.

Glad to surrender the point if an email comes from the RFL regarding those teams who made the playoffs but not the Grand Final because to me the email simply affirms that only the grand finalists get prize money.

ALL the money from the play off games is pooled including the final
That money is shared between the clubs.

The amount of money each club gets is determined from their position AFTER the play offs.

It's not rocket science.

Wigan got more than Saints, who got more than Leeds, who got more than Huddersfield, who got more than Warrington, who got more than HKR who got more than Hull who got more than Crusaders.

How do you think it works?

Not quite. The Grand Finalists are given prize money. The GATE money - from the Grand Final and all the play off matches - is pooled and divided between Superleague teams.

Everybody in the play offs gets prize money. The gate money from the play offs is what is used to fund it.

lol

I was talking to McManus in Cardiff over a gil or 7 and he said the GF is worth 300k.

Oh they did Louis... He's coaching Leeds now!