I agree! Mozza was brilliant player here and become world class in the NRL. One of the modern greats and also set the bench mark for british players playing in the NRL in the super league era. I'm pretty sure the Burgess brothers and jammer wouldnt have been chased if it wasn't fkr the impact mozza had.

It's amazing how so many people can't read plain English.

I DIDN'T say Adrian Morley wasn't a great player.
I DID say Adrian Morley was the best prop in the world.
I DID say Adrian Morley's time at the top was relatively short lived.
I DID say James Graham - considered over the duration of his career and based on the entirety of his skills is a better player than Morley ever was.

Can't people be happy enough with Morley being considered the best prop in the world for eighteen months/two years? Or is it that unless I consider him equally as good as Graham (or better) - which he demonstrably wasn't - they'll all cry?

It seems so.

Pathetic.

Some say that GB would've won by 40 points if he hadn't been sent off.

Based on Britain's performances over the last forty years against Australia I'd love to know on what basis "some people" might possibly think that...

Looks like he's declined the offer. All money couid go to Danny jones

Morley was a very good second row in England, then moved up to prop in Australia. He led the Roosters forward pack in defence in a way I haven't seen any other forward bar Sam Burgess do. He was also always on the verge of being sent off however, because (in the NRL at least) he never got rid of his tendency to swing the arm every now and then.

I'd put him behind Burgess because Burgess was a far better player with the ball (although this was an area Morley did develop a lot). He'd be ahead of Ellis, who was absolutely outstanding for the Tigers. Still undecided as to where I'd put Graham on the list - he can be great but I'd love to see him in a team with better halfbacks so he could use his skill more selectively.

One thing's for sure, if we had Burgess, Morley, Graham and Gareth Ellis all at their peak, I'd genuinely say England had a better pack than Australia. Sadly we don't seem to produce enough of them to get them all on the field at their peak at the same time.

This is broadly what I'm saying. No one would ever suggest Morley was a great forward until he moved to Australia. Whereas Graham was outstanding from the age of 21/22 in SL - and then got even better in the NRL.

Considered over the duration of his career Morley spent far too long as a "talented but raw" forward with not enough time spent as the real deal. Like Jamie Peacock you could never accuse Graham of being anything less than at the top of his game (in the context of the competition he played in) since he matured physically.



Given that neither the Roosters nor the Bunnies are or were in any way short of talent I'd argue that Graham has achieved beyond both. Even the most one-eyed of the Dogs fans admit their side isn't particularly great and yet through Graham's almost single-handed intervention have still managed to achieve two finals.

Like I said - they love him more than Terry Lamb. And any time a Dogs fan says that - you know it's serious.

Good lord they are the same age, but By the Time Peacock had got round to being a Bradford Regular Morley had won a challenge cup, played in a Superleague Grand Final and had decided to Sign for an NRL club. As Good a Ball player James Graham is and As good a Leader Peacock is they dont have a highlights reel Like Morley's.

If he is the last of a dying Breed then shame on the game. I'd rather see Adrian Morley smashing Awen Guttenbeel as revenge for him 12 months earlier smashing a halfback and Standing over him giving it billy big balls...than James Grahams histrionics.

James Graham is all mouth in those situations.....like the "Run again son" to Jason King...I hate Graham's Mouthy stuff it simply means your bark's worse than your bite (I once gave Chris Arkwright a spray... then I ran a ball back from under the sticks he smashed me and gently held my face in a puddle for a while...you learn these things...)

you probably haven't seen enough of Morley in the NRL to make that odd comment. So Its fair enough.
James Graham is a superb ball playing forward and an Absolute Tackling machine, Id have him at wires anyday...but out of Morley's league not a chance......

Absolutely spot on.

Anyone see Morley try to head but the Huddesfield player twice last night and gets off with a talking too?

Aaaargh ... that's PRECISELY the reason Morley just doesn't do it for me. I'm not interested in "highlight reels". And Morley has always been a "highlights player". You talk of histrionics - Morley is the ultimate example of such. Instead of exerting constant influence on a game he's forever jumping in and out of it with a showy barnstorming run here, a near-horizontal shoulder charge there - throw in one or two borderline decapitations and one definite.

Both Graham and Peacock give nothing less than everything for every second they are on the pitch. Both churn up huge amounts of yards and have other facets to the game. Morley was never a great yardage maker. All too often he'd dumbly plough headlong into six guys like some kind of deranged masochist. The crowd love it. What a "tough guy!". More like ... [iwhat a moron[/i. Only an utter moron would get himself sent off against the Aussies in the first ten seconds. Morley knew exactly what he was doing. He could easily have gone into Kearns a bit lower. But no. His over-stuffed ego couldn't countenance not being the centre of attention.

He was a moron on the pitch and he was an even bigger moron off it. Only a moron when playing (captaining?) the GB team which was then sponsored by "Think! Don't Drink & Drive" would soak himself in booze, jump in the car, wrap it up and then do a runner.

Basically he was a big guy with limited skills who won fans over by being "spectacular". He's the type of guy who films himself for Jackass running head first into a concrete wall, rolls about laughing at the end like a dribbling idiot - and then pulls down his pants to light a fart with a match. In fact - "Jackass" is a word which perfectly describes Morley. I couldn't pick a better one if I scoured every last page of the Oxford dictionary.

It's getting pretty tedious reading it now. Get a life lads

kin hell are you 12 ??...... whats the jackass fart lighting about. If I was immature I'd talk about James Graham biting ears and nothing else...fortunately I'm not, so I can appreciate his skills.

Listen to Freddie Fittler and Andrew Johns Talk about him ....I bet they don't call Adrian Morley a Dribbling idiot once.....

That's close to being the worst post on RL Fans ever.... and I frequent the Wire forum so I know when I see it.

Oh. Warrington fan. Explains everything.

Oh the have been Many posts worse than that!!!

This from the man who when not treated with the reverence he THINKS he deserves reverts to homophobic sleights (always anally fixated - what THAT suggests is anyone's guess

) such as "bum chum".

Homophobic ?

Your not right foz, totally lost the plot.

Your words. Not mine.

What you on about foz ?

They're your words. You tell me.

Ain't got clue what your on about. If your accusing me of homophobia you better prove it.

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And not the first time, either.

Grow up you fool. Calling someone homophobic is defamation of character and now getting personal. Saints lost, deal with it without postiñg on a forum that I'm homophobic when im 100% not!

Thanks to all those who sent pms regarding mugwamps outragous comments on a public forum stating that im "homophobic"

Id like to 100% confirm im not homophobic; I actully have gay friends and my brother in law is gay who was part of our party that's just been on holiday for 3 weeks to the states.

I despise all forms of homophobia!

I'm taking a break from posting on this forum while the appropriate people deal with this accusation.

You'll be taking a permanent break from this site, mate. I've had enough of you.

Whether you like it or not - the language YOU'VE USED (not me) is demonstrably homophobic language.

I wouldn't dream of using that term - because I know exactly what it means.

By all means, threaten what you like. [uYou[/u wrote those words. [uYou[/u will have to defend writing them. Not me.

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