a nice brutal battle between Wire and Hudds today would be nice!

For consistency, whats the possibilty of 2 players injured and 2 players suspended just like us.

Sorry but all this wheeler talk sseems agenda driven. Nothing in it at all. He's a fine player. We need 3 halfs to give decent cover for a season.

I'd disagree with Thompson mate. I think Walker, Richards are ahead of him in terms of back up props. Walker and Richards seen to hold their weight more in the tackle. Thompson runs like a train and gets the meters as he's pretty fast for a prop but on impact he's virtually stopped in his tracks. I like all 3 of them but IMO they just ahead of him.

Greenwood has come on leaps and bounds. Brown wanted him to be more aggressive in both attack and defence and looks like he's added that to his game so far this year.

No agenda, but it's a reasonable question to ask why when Walsh and Wilkin are out, he's not featuring?

Maybe he's injured as well.

which is fair enough, why not say it?

Previous history would lead to saints fans rioting if he signed a new contract if they announced he was injured?

quite possibly.

Still think if we let him go he'll go amazingly for someone else!

This is my problem with it all. As frustrated and despairing as I am with him and his injury record, I'd still much rather he lined up for us than against us. (And you could put good money on him never missing his games vs saints for the next 10 years!) it's a dilemma that's for sure, I wouldn't blame saints either way (that said I'm sure the masses will cause outcry if he goes and plays against us/ he stays and continues his injury run)

He can't be on a ton of money so for a 3rd half he brings quality when available

but when's that?

Practically never

I think thats a bit harsh, he has been much better this year with a better pack around him but I'm pretty certain this is his last year and I doubt we'll sign anyone to replace him directly rather his spot will be taken by one of the promising young lads

Given his unbelievably poor injury record (and Brown's comments about his professionalism) anyone with any sense would understand if Saints cut him loose. If he comes back to haunt us, so be it (Wigan may come sniffing again).

But as shadows says, he won't be on any serious money, and we'll seriously struggle to replace him with similar quality - would it be worth the 30k to keep him on better safe than sorry money?

It would, if he'd stay for that. Or offer him more and a pay by play deal.

Maybe 30k was a little ambitious, but I'd seriously question whether anyone in the league would offer him ~50k+ given his record - so we might get away with that sort of range (unless he has a hell of an agent!)

I know we were rumoured to be offering Gardner a play per pay deal, back when everyone thought he was ooc (not that he ever was) so it might not be infeasible!

I'm sure brown, McManus and wheeler will have sat down and stated our intentions.

Back on topic slightly, 14 all at wire hudds atm

Warrington have just gone ahead at Hudds with 5 to go. Have wire become good again over night? I doubt it. Definite cracks in the Huddersfield team

21-14 to wire now.

I wouldn't write off Huddersfield next week just yet, but they are blowing very hot and cold at the minute...

Correction 27-14 (they score every time I post!)

Comfortable win for Wire in the end. Is that good news or bad for us?

Also, did anyone listen to it on Radio Merseyside, and if so did you enjoy the half time ramblings from Ray and co? Fabulous stuff.

and again, 14 - 33 ft

a glorious collapse by Hudds in the second half.

Wasn't even a collapse in the second half, it was a collapse in the last 10 minutes!

Not sure if this makes me more or less confident for next week!

Well Wire havnt been the fittest of teams this year, so hopefully Hudds got tired. They've got 2 days off less than us and hopefully are hurting from this.
We should be favourites for the cup game, not sure if thats a good thing either!