Looks like he was hot property as a 19-20 year old but has had his development curtailed by injury. If he can understand the difference between his posterior and his elbow and can outrun a stationary object then he will be one of our top wingers straight away.

I'd rather have Matt Dawson off question of sport

Who?

Remember when we had the likes of Darren Albert, Anthony Sullivan and Alan Hunte on the wings?!

Like I've been saying, this squad is very very poor. Most fans are kidding themselves if they think we are a top team. Only one player in the England squad shows how poor we are.

Wonder if we can officially sign the bloke before people slag him off?

Nobody slagging him really, its just not the quality of player we are expecting or want.

This guy is four or maybe fifth choice winger at Huddersfield what make him good enough for us we will have Gardner Percival makinson swift next season who can all play on the wing

Might be better with Les Dawson

He was brilliant on Saturday night.

Good signing if true, might be a hidden Gem and we can concentrate on some top line props.

Cross Gardner out and I'd agree with you!
Seriously, this must be a salary cap issue to sign someone who can't get a look in a SL team.

So you have seen a lot of him then to reach that conclusion?

I've never heard of him.

Isn't that the concern here? He's 23(?) and has been at Cas and Huddersfield and yet we've never heard of him. He cant get into the Huddersfield team, so what makes him a good signing for us?

Exactly

No I've never heard of him and that's my point. He's 22 years old, he's shocked doctors that he came back from a serious knee injury, he can't get in the hudds team, isn't that a indication of how far a have gone?

Saints fans are still living in the past, we are now the new Bradford, we looking to sign other teams crap and hope they turn out good.

We are now a middle table team, our new aim isn't to win cups, its to make the top eight. The squad is awful, to many people kidding themselves saying we should be up there, we shouldn't be losing.

We've now Come to the conclusion that the likes of makinson, Turner, Jones etc are top players, they are your average run of the mill super league players, nothing special. That's the problem, we've no quality.

IMO these players are not good enough for a top super league team - makinson, wello, turner, wheeler, hohaia, Meli, Ade, wilkin, perry, Howarth, Laffranchi, Clough, flanaghan and then add the young lads like swift, jones, walker, greenwood, Thompson etc and then the boarder line decent players like LMS, wilkin and TP it makes for a poor squad.

IMO only sia, Manu, lomax, roby and Walmsley are they type of quality a top super league club needs, so basically we have 4 out of a 25 man squad with any quality

That makes us no different from any other team then. Take a particular group of players out of any team and they will look worse.

I think you were unfair on our young players, particularly the ones who have had their debuts this season. We don't yet have a real idea as to their quality so why not just give them a chance before condemning them?

HKR picked up Alex Brown from Batley. He's another Huddersfield reject.
Whilst he's far from a perfect player, he's got pace and power.

Hull (the form team in Superleague) curently have a player called Paul Johnson doing very well for them. He was released from Saints as he couldn't even get his nose infront of the other youngsters (Dixon, Emmit, Ashurts, Magennis) to make an impression.

Peter Fox was released by Leeds and ended up an England winger.

Danny Kirmond was a Championship winger for Featherstone. Brown signed him for Huddersfield and turned him into a very accomplished forward.
If this lad is big and quick, then that's a pretty good start.

I'm not having a go at the young players. My point is, we don't know how good they will turn out.

Hunte and Sullivan were hardly big names before we signed them.

I also remember when we had the likes of Brimah Kebbie, Mike Riley and Tony Stewart on the wings.

Sullivan cost £80,000 so he was established.

Exactly.

Nobody has seen him play and that is quite an important part of being a player, you would think.

Well if he was that good he'd be in Hudds first team and you probably would have heard of him. Maybe he is a 'hidden gem' and we can only hope he is but we are currently wallowing around in the middle of the table and losing games for fun so signing some no name from Hudds is hardly going to get the juices pumping is it?

Its the calibre of player we are going for tho, nothing against him but lets be honest, he's not the sort of player we should be wanting.

He has two very good wingers ahead of him at Hudds in Murphy and McGilvary.

There's undoubtedly bargains and gems knocking about in the championship. Walmsley, Hill and McGilvary are proof of this, I am worried though about this signing, as to why he isn't challenging Murphy and McGilvary for the wing spots at Huddersfield. They're both good players, but do we really want a 4th choice winger brought in?