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| Quote ="DoubleAone"All the Leeds playere were and always are MAGNANIMOUS in victory. '"
Except Bailey, as Wilkin said.
Bailey is and always will be a thug and an idiot. Hope he's given a good seeing to by the men from down under.
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| Quote ="SaintsFan"Except Bailey, as Wilkin said.
Bailey is and always will be a thug and an idiot. Hope he's given a good seeing to by the men from down under.'"
Cos Jon Wilkin said so, nobody else saw it, nobody seems to be able to actually explain in detail what the issue was but Bailey must have done it cos Jon Wilkin said so, and Jon Wilkin never ever ever says things he regrets after a grand final loss and certainly doesnt have a reputation as a moaner no sir!
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| Quote ="SaintsFan"Except Bailey, as Wilkin said.
Bailey is and always will be a thug and an idiot. Hope he's given a good seeing to by the men from down under.'"
so Wilko said it so it must be true... what a sad loser and such a shame for a great club to be so emabarrassed.
There is NO evidence of anything untoward taking place other then perhaps some over exuberant celebrating with his own fans.
You are so brave hiding behind your keyboard which is perhaps even more embarrassing than Wilkos sad outpouring
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| all the accusations are Wilkin said this, Wilkin said that but no one has seen Bailey do anything except overly celebrate HIS team acheivements infront of HIS teams fans.
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| all the accusations are Wilkin said this, Wilkin said that but no one has seen Bailey do anything except overly celebrate HIS team acheivements infront of HIS teams fans.
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| Quote ="DoubleAone"You are so brave hiding behind your keyboard which is perhaps even more embarrassing than Wilkos sad outpouring'"
I've never hidden behind my keyboard. But why don't you go back to your own board? We had a rest from you for a full season.
I happen to believe Wilkin. And I'm looking forward to the men from down under putting Bailey firmly on his backside (That's if he has the balls to give them the chance! Knowing Bailey he'll hide behind the smallest man on the pitch!).
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| Quote ="SaintsFan"
I happen to believe Wilkin.'"
but where is the proof that Bailey was squaring up to players surley someone would be able to point to to something on screen from the live game.
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| There are plenty of players over the years I have disliked. Plenty of them have played for GB/Eng. I have always supported them. I find it sad that anybody would support opposition players over GB/Eng players just because they don't like him.
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| Quote ="wf16-barmyarmy"but where is the proof that Bailey was squaring up to players surley someone would be able to point to to something on screen from the live game.'"
As I said, I happen to believe Wilkin. I also believe the young player(s) concerned.
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| Quote ="Dave T"I find it sad that anybody would support opposition players over GB/Eng players just because they don't like him.'"
That's fine by me. I've no idea who you are and I don't care about your opinion of me either.
I repeat: I hope the men from down under put him firmly on his backside. However, I shall be cheering on the rest of the England players wholeheartedly, just as I did today at the Knights game.
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| Quote ="SaintsFan"That's fine by me. I've no idea who you are and I don't care about your opinion of me either.
I repeat: I hope the men from down under put him firmly on his backside. However, I shall be cheering on the rest of the England players wholeheartedly, just as I did today at the Knights game.'"
I would expect that him being put on his backside (if selected) would have a negative effect on the England team. I can understand you disliking him (not many like him tbf), but personally I'd be saving any animosity I have against him for when he plays for Leeds against my team.
What if it is a hit in the last minute that put's Bailey on his and loses us the game via a missed tackle or a dropped ball. I assume you'd still be happy?
Strange support of England tbh.
I find RL supporters inability to remove their club hats when supporting England/GB to be pretty rubbish tbh. Things like this, along with Wigan fans hatred for McGuire, and opposition fans booing of Tomkins in an England shirt speak volumes for our international game and our support of it.
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| Quote ="SaintsFan"As I said, I happen to believe Wilkin. I also believe the young player(s) concerned.'"
all im asking for is more details bailey has apparently done as from watching it back and my previous post i see absolutly nothing wrong with baileys actions last sat night. bailey in the past HAS stirred trouble with opposition but is it worse than graham throwing his arms in the air to celebrate infront of the leeds fans in 08 or 09, smith standing on the ad boards infront of the wigan fans after he scored in the 1/4 final, tomkins throwing the v sign at the leeds fans in the challenge cup final, tomkins spitting towards the leeds fan (not sure which game), graham refusing to shake any leeds players hand 2009, some saints players walking off the pitch before kev picked up the trophy on sat all these are bad sportmanship but no one has actually said what bailey has done to cause so more trouble.
I believe James Graham is a tw @t but it doesn't make it factua, just coz i believe itl!!
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| Outrageous hypocrisy for a team that had Sonny Nickle in their side.
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| Quote ="SaintsFan"I've never hidden behind my keyboard. But why don't you go back to your own board? We had a rest from you for a full season.
I happen to believe Wilkin. And I'm looking forward to the men from down under putting Bailey firmly on his backside (That's if he has the balls to give them the chance! Knowing Bailey he'll hide behind the smallest man on the pitch!).'"
What an embarrassment you are to a great team.
all I will say to you is [size=200CINCO[/size
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| Quote ="DoubleAone"What an embarrassment you are to a great team.
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Just like Ryan Bailey.
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| The is tough players in rugby which are classed as hard men but do it in the laws of the game and still get great respect from opposition players and fans.
Players like peacock, Graham, Morley etc are all hard tough men but they stuck to the rules, we might not like them but they are hugely respected but Bailey is just a $hithouse sneaky thug who has no respect by anyone.
He's got no class at all and would love to see these kiwis and convicts to get him sorted but sadly we won't get to see it as he won't make the 17 as he's rubbish.
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| Quote ="St pete"The is tough players in rugby which are classed as hard men but do it in the laws of the game and still get great respect from opposition players and fans.
Players like peacock, Graham, [size=150Morley[/size etc are all hard tough men but they stuck to the rules, we might not like them but they are hugely respected but Bailey is just a $hithouse sneaky thug who has no respect by anyone.
He's got no class at all and would love to see these kiwis and convicts to get him sorted but sadly we won't get to see it as he won't make the 17 as he's rubbish.'"
Not sure he ALWAYS stuck to the rules, to be honest .
I take your point, though. There's a huge difference in being hard and being a bully.
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| Quote ="Judder Man"I would still expect Wilkin to throw the odd mis-timed hospital pass to Bailey though in the nations games.'"
Not on purpose though, just playing his natural game
From watching the game I didn't really see anything regarding Bailey fronting up to people. However after watching the replay on sky think I might make a educated guess at where the sour grapes come from. In the 76th minute there is a bit of hand bags with ablett and wilkin. Bailey goes in and says something to wilkin as when he gets up he ain't very happy with Bailey. I would guess he hurt ikle johns feelings resulting in sour grapes rather than fronting up to younger members of the team.
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| Quote ="Cragganmore Kid"Not sure he ALWAYS stuck to the rules, to be honest
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I take your point, though. There's a huge difference in being hard and being a bully.'"
Yep, anyone can throw punch and hide behind his team mates and that don't make a hard man it just makes a coward like Bailey is.
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| Quote ="St pete"Yep, anyone can throw punch and hide behind his team mates and that don't make a hard man it just makes a coward like Bailey is.'"
Another urban myth, watched Leeds for a long time and as a result all of baileys career, not seen him hide behind anyone.
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| Quote ="Ferdy"Another urban myth, watched Leeds for a long time and as a result all of baileys career, not seen him hide behind anyone.'"
Not watched leeds that often but seen it many times.
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| Quote ="St pete"Not watched leeds that often but seen it many times.'"
I have never seen him "hide" like menu mention. To be honest I rather he didn't get involved in fights and avoid sin bin, red card that hurt the team. As much as I enjoyed seeing Keith putting wilkin on his backside it didn't do us any good getting 10 mins in the bin. That came about by shouting his mouth off as well, but sadly to someone with less self control who just chinned him
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| Quote ="Ferdy"Another urban myth, watched Leeds for a long time and as a result all of baileys career, not seen him hide behind anyone.'"
I have and that's based on fewer occasions watching him than you have. One I clearly remember was when he tried to decapitate Faasavalu at Knowsley Road and the partisan crowd were baying for his blood. Loved that game. Didn't think much of Bailey, tapping his shoulder in front of his team mates and saying 'it was my f*cking shoulder' over and over. He knew what he had done, shoulder or not, and he wasn't taken on by his team mates either. Jammer put him on his backside twice later on, once front on, once as third man in. Hopefully the men from down under will add some extras in the tackle too, just to ram the message down the miserable con's cowardly throat.
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| Quote ="Ferdy"As much as I enjoyed seeing Keith putting wilkin on his backside it didn't do us any good getting 10 mins in the bin. That came about by shouting his mouth off as well, but sadly to someone with less self control who just chinned him'"
Keef is a brainless idiot.
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| Quote ="St pete"Not watched leeds that often but seen it many times.'"
so you could name a few ACTUAL incidents then rather than just making stuff up
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