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| Quote ="Sadfish"first sample i've not used the club badge in this sample as i'm not sure on copyright issues etc...
Players can comes and go as you wish and it needs a bit of a tidy on the spacing front.'"
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| Quote ="Ski"Alex Murphy
Les Jones
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Kel Coslett
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Paul Wellens
Keiron Cunningham
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Tommy Voll
Shane Cooper
Len Killeen
Sean Long
Vinty Karalius
Paul Sculthorpe
Bobbie Goulding
Chris Joynt
Tommy Martyn
Eamonn McManus
Jim Sullivan
Harry Cook'"
I'd have Alan Prescott, Billy Benyon, Cliff Watson, Dick Huddart and George Nicholls, Paul Newlove in ahead of Jones, Wellens, Haggerty, Pimblett and one-season wonder Goulding, how he's even got a mention on it is beyond me. |
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Kevin Ward has to be in it Ski.
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| Quote ="McClennan"I'd have Alan Prescott, Billy Benyon, Cliff Watson, Dick Huddart and George Nicholls, Paul Newlove in ahead of Jones, Wellens, Haggerty, Pimblett and one-season wonder Goulding, how he's even got a mention on it is beyond me.'"
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| Quote ="Carlos Alberto"Kevin Ward has to be in it Ski.'"
He was good but you are talking greats and the sign of greatness is medals.
Mike Mc i will disagree with you on Goulding, in my opinion he was a catalyst for where we are now, he is arrogance and selfishness instilled a winning mentality. |
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| Quote ="Doogal"He was good but you are talking greats and the sign of greatness is medals.'"
I dont really agree with that, a great player can play in a poor team. |
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| Quote ="Doogal"He was good but you are talking greats and the sign of greatness is medals.'"
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Quote Mike Mc i will disagree with you on Goulding, in my opinion he was a catalyst for where we are now, he is arrogance and selfishness instilled a winning mentality.'" Indeed, that's why I'm dissapointed that Newlove isn't in Ski's list. |
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| Quote ="Offside Monkey"Cough (Ricky Bibey) Cough
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Players like Bibey Mason dont stay around long enough to get a host of medals. |
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The second one with the '66 cup winners badge is my favourite.
A few alterations will take place over the next couple of days, but it is REALLY coming together. |
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| Both are superb , but I prefer the second one as well , fantastic work  |
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| Quote ="Ski"The second one with the '66 cup winners badge is my favourite.
A few alterations will take place over the next couple of days, but it is REALLY coming together.'"
I like the idea of having a retro badge, but I think the flag with the modern badge looks better as it is a bit less busy. |
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Sorry to throw a spanner in the works, especially as I provided a list for Ski to analyse, but Dick Huddart anyone?
I think Wardy is a must if we are going for Cooper. The man was a legend on both sides of the globe which is rare indeed.
Doogal, medals is not a sign of greatness. It is a contributory factor, but it is a non sequitar to conclude that it is medals alone that show how good a player is.
As it was anyway, Ward won a Premier's medal with manly so can rightly conclude to have won the highest club accolade in the game.
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| Quote ="Dux"I like the idea of having a retro badge, but I think the flag with the modern badge looks better as it is a bit less busy.'"
Maybe removing the St Helens and ing the badge? |
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| Quote ="eddiewaringsflatcap"Sorry to throw a spanner in the works, especially as I provided a list for Ski to analyse, but Dick Huddart anyone?
I think Wardy is a must if we are going for Cooper. The man was a legend on both sides of the globe which is rare indeed.
Doogal, medals is not a sign of greatness. It is a contributory factor, but it is a non sequitar to conclude that it is medals alone that show how good a player is.
As it was anyway, Ward won a Premier's medal with manly so can rightly conclude to have won the highest club accolade in the game.'"
Thing is, I've tried to include a spectrum, something everyone will find something to recognise.
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| Quote ="Ski"Thing is, I've tried to include a spectrum, something everyone will find something to recognise.
Like I said, I'm open to changing it for the best'"
Exactly and to be fair, I think the mix is right.
It looks quality work so far and can't wait till it is unleashed in all it's glory.
Saints fans pioneering another effort in RL circles. |
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not sure about Goulding at all, 1996 he was awesome, and was the lynchpin in us winning the league....but, the way that he left the club and his behaviour off the field in 1997-1998 brought the club more disrepute than almost anyone else.
On the whole, I would argue that Perelini and Newlove both deserve to be on there before Goulding. They too were major contributors to the 1996 victory, but performed for Saints at the highest level for years longer than Goulding, and they won a lot more trophies.
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| Quote ="Ski"Maybe removing the St Helens and ing the badge?'"
That could work. Only downside being it won't be that obvious to tv viewers etc. what the flag is all about. |
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| Dom McCormack has just posted this design on RedVee.
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| Now, in terms of funding. Nurse-navy-saint off'f redvee got in touch with our friend Tony Colquitt, one of the head honchos and essentially our go to guy in the club. We put in the idea, and suggested that maybe the club aid the funding. this was the reply we got.
Quote Hi,
Sounds like a great idea. I will e mail across dimensions when i get back to the
office. I dont think you will have an issue with size though!
I would be happy for the club to contribute . As you would imagine and expect
the club will be ensuring its past is not forgotten when we move. We will be
working on several areas that hopefully should ensure all parties are kept
happy.
Dont hesitate to e mail me if you require anything else.
kind regards
Tony'"
This is of course great news. However, we now have to get is finalised, and qutoed up with various companies I have found online.
The inclusion of Saints.org.uk is very important. Much of the fundraising will be through fan donations. Sadfish has kindly offered that anyone who donates will have their name forever imprinted on a special page the site, about the tifo and in recognition of the help in getting the work off the ground. He has offered to handle donations, but we will finalise those plans in good time. |
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Quote ="Ski"Right, so I have gone about picked a 22 off the list, looking at each one on www.saints.org.uk (great site again Fishy and co)
Alex Murphy yes
Les Jones yes
Duggie Greenall yes
Kel Coslett yes
Alf Ellaby yes
Roy Haggerty no - good club player nothing else
Paul Wellens yes
Keiron Cunningham yes
Billy Benyon yes
Geoff Pimlett yes
Tommy Voll yes
Shane Cooper no - good club player nothing else
Len Killeen no - famous for kicks at wembley nowt else
Sean Long yes
Vinty Karalius yes
Paul Sculthorpe yes
Bobbie Goulding no- far more players worthy of inclusion
Chris Joynt yes
Tommy Martyn yes
Eamonn McManus no - now is not the time to judge his legacy.
Jim Sullivan yes
Harry Cook yes
I feel we have covered a broad range of ages, backgrounds and what not.
If anyone can put a compelling argument to me by Tuesday night about a change, then I will alter it. But if we fannied around with who wants what, we would never get this off the forums and onto photoshop (let alone a flag)'"
Ive highlighted who i agree and disagree with.
Notable missing
Alan Prescott - one of the greatest RL players of all time. Prescott is a legend in the UK and Australia. This man won the ashes while playing with a broken arm, while captaining GB. He captained the Saints team that won its first challenge cup winning the lance todd in the process. The guy is a RL immortal, to not have him in is a disgrace.
He was a brilliant ball playing forward, who had also been a schoolboy sprint champion. Over 400 appearances for Saints. 31 GB appearances, (most be a Saints player).
Herman the German - Founder of Saints. Without him it would never have began.
George Nicholls- just read Dave Dooleys biograpphy
www.saints.org.uk/saints.org.uk/ ... page_id=10
Cliff Watson - scourge of the aussies. He absolutely battered them.
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Quote ="Ski"Right, so I have gone about picked a 22 off the list, looking at each one on www.saints.org.uk (great site again Fishy and co)
Alex Murphy yes
Les Jones yes
Duggie Greenall yes
Kel Coslett yes
Alf Ellaby yes
Roy Haggerty no - good club player nothing else
Paul Wellens yes
Keiron Cunningham yes
Billy Benyon yes
Geoff Pimlett yes
Tommy Voll yes
Shane Cooper no - good club player nothing else
Len Killeen no - famous for kicks at wembley nowt else
Sean Long yes
Vinty Karalius yes
Paul Sculthorpe yes
Bobbie Goulding no- far more players worthy of inclusion
Chris Joynt yes
Tommy Martyn yes
Eamonn McManus no - now is not the time to judge his legacy.
Jim Sullivan yes
Harry Cook yes
I feel we have covered a broad range of ages, backgrounds and what not.
If anyone can put a compelling argument to me by Tuesday night about a change, then I will alter it. But if we fannied around with who wants what, we would never get this off the forums and onto photoshop (let alone a flag)'"
Ive highlighted who i agree and disagree with.
Notable missing
Alan Prescott - one of the greatest RL players of all time. Prescott is a legend in the UK and Australia. This man won the ashes while playing with a broken arm, while captaining GB. He captained the Saints team that won its first challenge cup winning the lance todd in the process. The guy is a RL immortal, to not have him in is a disgrace.
He was a brilliant ball playing forward, who had also been a schoolboy sprint champion. Over 400 appearances for Saints. 31 GB appearances, (most be a Saints player).
Herman the German - Founder of Saints. Without him it would never have began.
George Nicholls- just read Dave Dooleys biograpphy
www.saints.org.uk/saints.org.uk/ ... page_id=10
Cliff Watson - scourge of the aussies. He absolutely battered them.
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Eamonn, I think is a vital inclusion. Without his help, we would not have such a prosperous future to look forward to.
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Quote ="The Chair Maker"Ive highlighted who i agree and disagree with.
Notable missing
Alan Prescott - one of the greatest RL players of all time. Prescott is a legend in the UK and Australia. This man won the ashes while playing with a broken arm, while captaining GB. He captained the Saints team that won its first challenge cup winning the lance todd in the process. The guy is a RL immortal, to not have him in is a disgrace.
He was a brilliant ball playing forward, who had also been a schoolboy sprint champion. Over 400 appearances for Saints. 31 GB appearances, (most be a Saints player).
Herman the German - Founder of Saints. Without him it would never have began.
George Nicholls- just read Dave Dooleys biograpphy
www.saints.org.uk/saints.org.uk/ ... page_id=10
Cliff Watson - scourge of the aussies. He absolutely battered them.
29 gb caps. The best ever RU to RL forward convert.'"
I added Prescott already and Nicholls/Rhodes will most likely make it at the behest of cooper.
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Quote ="The Chair Maker"Ive highlighted who i agree and disagree with.
Notable missing
Alan Prescott - one of the greatest RL players of all time. Prescott is a legend in the UK and Australia. This man won the ashes while playing with a broken arm, while captaining GB. He captained the Saints team that won its first challenge cup winning the lance todd in the process. The guy is a RL immortal, to not have him in is a disgrace.
He was a brilliant ball playing forward, who had also been a schoolboy sprint champion. Over 400 appearances for Saints. 31 GB appearances, (most be a Saints player).
Herman the German - Founder of Saints. Without him it would never have began.
George Nicholls- just read Dave Dooleys biograpphy
www.saints.org.uk/saints.org.uk/ ... page_id=10
Cliff Watson - scourge of the aussies. He absolutely battered them.
29 gb caps. The best ever RU to RL forward convert.'"
I added Prescott already and Nicholls/Rhodes will most likely make it at the behest of cooper.
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I also think that the flag is too heavily weighted in favour of players since the 1980's with little to show for Pre ww2.
Granted Saints had little success prior to ww2 however we still had a few great players eg Jack Arkwright, Alf Ellaby, les Fairclough,William Briers
The legendary 1960's sides also seem under represented. Remember these were the best players in the world, not merely good club players as the current generation are.
This is a list of top 10 appearances at Saints
Kel Coslett
William Briers
Billy Benyon
Eric Chisnall
Dougie Greenall
les Jones
George Lewis
John Mantle
Keiron Cunningham
Tom Van Vollenhoven
All these should be on the list
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If Cooper is to be replaced I would vote for Rhodes to replace him. I would also suggest that Haggerty is removed and repalced with George Nicholls. I loved watching Roy play but I think we tend to look back with rose-tinted specs a bit and we shouldn't forget his brainfarts. Whole hearted, yes, but not a 'Great' for my money.
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| Quote ="MickeyMo"If Cooper is to be replaced I would vote for Rhodes to replace him. I would also suggest that Haggerty is removed and repalced with George Nicholls. I loved watching Roy play but I think we tend to look back with rose-tinted specs a bit and we shouldn't forget his brainfarts. Whole hearted, yes, but not a 'Great' for my money.'"
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