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| Quote ="McClennan"I don't disagree with you about that but when you throw Carmont into the mix I'm obliged to argue. In fact, on behalf of the real world, I am bound by duty to do so
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He made dream team last year and exiles this year.
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| Meli is as good as any Centre in SL, he's been brilliant for us at times this year. 9 tries and 10 assists in 17 appearances - that's a great return. It's fairly equivalent to the top performing Centres such as Atkins (12 tries & 9 assists), Welham (20 tries, 6 assists), Yeaman (18 tries, 4 assists), Bridge (9 tries, 8 asissts), Carmont (9 tries, 9 assists). Meli has played less games than all of those bar Bridge who he's played the same, so he stacks up very well overall.
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| Quote ="Blobbynator"Meli is as good as any Centre in SL, he's been brilliant for us at times this year. 9 tries and 10 assists in 17 appearances - that's a great return. It's fairly equivalent to the top performing Centres such as Atkins (12 tries & 9 assists), Welham (20 tries, 6 assists), Yeaman (18 tries, 4 assists), Bridge (9 tries, 8 asissts), Carmont (9 tries, 9 assists). Meli has played less games than all of those bar Bridge who he's played the same, so he stacks up very well overall.'"
It's his positional play in defence that worries me. Especially against Wigan and wolves who have took him apart in the past.
With ball in hand, meli is all power abd does offer us a threat outwide. Near the line he's unstoppable
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| Quote ="McClennan"Erm according to [url=http://www.superleague.co.uk/statistics_playerEngage[/url there are seven of those players who are in the top 25 try scorers this year.'"
Aye, and even more players are in the top 50 try scorers this year.
Your point is?
Oh, and engage don't use a capital 'E' by the way. Just in case you were trying to be a smart arris.
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| Quote ="SaintsFan"Aye, and even more players are in the top 50 try scorers this year.
Your point is?
Oh, and engage don't use a capital 'E' by the way. Just in case you were trying to be a smart arris.'"
Don't shoot me down for this but i think his points is they are better than our backs
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| Quote ="SaintsFan"Aye, and even more players are in the top 50 try scorers this year.
Your point is?'"
He said top try scorers and on the official Super League top try scorers list it is a top 25 and they are all in the list. It was you who chose to apply a top ten try scorers criteria not Rogues. You can't argue with him over something he never said in the first place.
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| Quote ="McClennan"He said top try scorers and on the official Super League top try scorers list it is a top 25 and they are all in the list. It was you who chose to apply a top ten try scorers criteria not Rogues. You can't argue with him over something he never said in the first place.'"
My future wife loves nothing more than a debate with Brian.
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| Lamb chops, roast spuds, cabbage, sprouts, gravy and mint sauce! Mmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
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| Quote ="McClennan"He said top try scorers and on the official Super League top try scorers list it is a top 25 and they are all in the list. It was you who chose to apply a top ten try scorers criteria not Rogues. You can't argue with him over something he never said in the first place.'"
I can't believe you are arguing with me over this. It's just incredible!
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| I don't buy this specialist centre arguement.
To coin a phrase you are what you do. As you rightly point out Pete, Carmont made the exiles team. But so did Meli, so he should get equal credit fo making the team and probably would have played centre had Matt King's missus not had a baby and so had to pull out of the team.
Yes Meli gets caught in defence sometimes, but this weakness is far less impacting on the team than his brain farts on the wing. In the centre he has cover either side and as Catalan showed on Friday most teams will hit the combination of Sia, Shenton, Gaskell and Makinson rather than risk a smashing against Meli. I really like the Meli Foster combination, it's an effective partnership both in defence and attack. Apart from a huge jump on Foster by King off a perfect kick from Briers, I don't recall Foster getting caught outunder the high ball or a kick behind like Meli used to struggle with. When a ball goes up t that wing, I'm no longer 50/50 in my head as to whether we will cover it or not. I just expect it will be dealt with, which make a nice change after 4 - 5 years of, oh dear whats going to happen from this kick.
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| Your posts are to long to read the whole saga.
So we stick meli centre so he dont have a brain fart in the centre? He got ripped apart in the grand final against Wigan which cost us the game.
He's got better in the centre but to coin a phrase, you can't teach a old dog new tricks.
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| Last year it the GF, Wigan just ran around us and did not even bother to go through Meli.
Hope that's short enough .
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| Quote ="bewareshadows"Last year it the GF, Wigan just ran around us and did not even bother to go through Meli.
Hope that's short enough .
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Your right, they didn't go thru him they went round him as he and lomax was out of position.
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| Quote ="McClennan"I'd have Shenton, Meli, Soliola and Wheeler ahead of him. That's four players which is pretty damn good if we only have one centre at the club.'"
Fail.
Carmont is the best centre in Superleague, young and up and coming centres should watch his game as Carmont is the model centre.
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| Quote ="St pete"So we stick meli centre so he dont have a brain fart in the centre? He got ripped apart in the grand final against Wigan which cost us the game.'"
He was playing on the wing. Lomax was his centre.
That was probably one of Potter's weirdest personnel scenarios and man, did he have some.
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| Quote ="SaintsFan"He was playing on the wing. Lomax was his centre.
That was probably one of Potter's weirdest personnel scenarios and man, did he have some.'"
Think you'll find they was switching about which is even more bizarre
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| Quote ="McClennan"He said top try scorers and on the official Super League top try scorers list it is a top 25 and they are all in the list. It was you who chose to apply a top ten try scorers criteria not Rogues. =#FF0000You can't argue with him over something he never said in the first place.'"
Oh she can, she does it frequently.
But she won't admit she is wrong.
Her new job is as a clairvoyant.
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| Quote ="Rogues Gallery"Oh she can, she does it frequently.
But she won't admit she is wrong.
Her new job is as a clairvoyant.'"
I don't think she's to happy with me, she's ignoring my pms I've sent her which I find pretty rude.
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| Quote ="St pete"I don't think she's to happy with me, she's ignoring my pms I've sent her which I find pretty rude.'"
You're drunk. So I'm ignoring you.
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| Quote ="SaintsFan"You're drunk.
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I wouldn't say drunk
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| Quote ="SaintsFan"You're drunk.
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It's rude to ignore people
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| Quote ="post"Fail.
Carmont is the best centre in Superleague, young and up and coming centres should watch his game as Carmont is the model centre.'"
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| Quote ="St pete"Scraping the barrel? Most if not all those players listed would walk into our side.'"
Mate, a GREAT backline is Wellens (in his prime), Tuilagi, Newlove, Iro, Hoppe, Long & Martyn. Or Hunte, Newlove, Sullivan etc.
Some of the people you're praising would struggle to scrape the mud of the above's boots.
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| Quote ="Mugwump"Mate, a GREAT backline is Wellens (in his prime), Tuilagi, Newlove, Iro, Hoppe, Long & Martyn. Or Hunte, Newlove, Sullivan etc.
Some of the people you're praising would struggle to scrape the mud of the above's boots.'"
That is a great backline. Look at it compared to wello, makinson, shenton, meli, foster, Gaskell and lomax.
We've defo improved
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| So the starting 17 could be
Lomax
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That's a pretty strong starting team, that does not even account for Wellens and Flannery.
On paper a more in depth squad than this year all though a question mark still over pryce, and a lack of Props below those starting 4 Perry, TP , Clough and LMS.
I know most think Pryce is off, but I'm still not certain yet.
I know some don't like playing young players but I think Lomax, Foster and Makinson have shown enough so far to warrent a 1st team start.
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