Fully Agree. Unfortunately the offers to these players have been made.

Wigan's equivalent of Clough is Tuson , he has done nothing wrong
and isn't on megabucks but has been moved on to Wakey.

because Wigan want to freshen things up and give other players
youngsters a go.

Sometimes you need to be ruthless.

Gardner in particular has been well looked after for far too long
for basically a "Dave Tanner".

Wello and Gardner have done nothing to deserve a new contract, laffranchi either

I'll be very interested to see what role wello will play next year.

If he is still in our full strength 17 then there is something seriously wrong and I'd question just who is making the decisions.

At a push he can get away with playing fullback but he can't play anywhere else. He can't be a utility player as they cover more than one position and he can't.

He should have retired at the end of last season.

OOC: Nathan Ashe, Mark Flanagan, Ade Gardner, Joe Greenwood, Josh Perry, Dominic Speakman, Adam Swift, James Tilley, Paul Wellens, Dan Yates

Only Swift I'm really bothered about from all them. Flanagan and Greenwood for Squad plates maybe but not as starting players.

I don't think he should anywhere near.

I hope Brown sends out a signal of intent at the start of the season and takes the no.1 shirt off him. Sentimentality will mean he won't do it though.

has Lafranchi's extention been confirmed by the club yet?

Not that I've noticed.

Hopefully it was just an awful rumour!

There was an article in the star mid season quoting that he had leaked it in the sponsors lounge
before a game.

nothing official from the club.

He was quoted in the Star also last December saying he wanted an extension before a ball was kicked !!!

For me he has been very ordinary, his only virtue is that he is not perry and plays a few games.

Can't ever remember him really dominating a game in his two years.

Flannery Mk2 on former Test player wages.

Howarth wasn't wanted this year even with our struggles so what makes you think we'd want him next year with a better squad?
Sends him down to the championship that's his level.

The fact he's a Salford player is why I'd send him back:

He's an ex Salford City Reds player, not good enough to be a Salford Red Devils player.

He still has to go back to you though. Once the season finishes he'll still be under contract for a couple of months. It's up to Salford what to do with him, not Saints.

Don't let the money make you arrogant by the way. I've always liked Salford and even go to a few matches. I'd hate to see the fans turn out like Wire fans.

You'd think they had signed a team of world beaters the way they acting.

Meli -,will be good signing but hes nothing special.

Morley - old, injury prone and can't play long mins.

Rapiria - injury prone and not played much rugby.

TP -?amazed he passed his medical as his knees are shot and arm knackered.

Sau - very good player.

Tim Smith - done well this year but not wanted at Wigan years ago and not wanted in the NRL. Could go either way.


Not the superstars i expected them to sign and 3 of them are over 33 years of age.

Hock and Chase will be added to that list.

They probably will be as it stands they ain't signed.

Correction they both have signed, just not announced.

I was told about Hock on Good Friday prior to the Saints game.

Chase has signed, don't know about Hock.

Of course not and because of that we will risk another terrible year with no hope of winning anything. Wasting cap space on experienced players who have no real role in the team, certainly not as first choice is a disaster especially when we desperately need a stand off and ideally another prop

Keep Swift, Greenwood and Flanagan, bin off the rest.