Which is????????

I wasnt even stating rules are going against Saints.

I meant in general.

The kick out over dead ball line is a crap rule where you then start on your own 20.
The is it a knock on or was he going into the tackle is crap too, if its a knock on, it's a knock on.
Same with a forward pass, scrap the 'momentum' rule, if it is forward, it is forward, let's not get like rugby union where you can pass forward all the time.

I know, thats why i stuck up for you.

Which just happens to coincide with you not finishing Top of the league for the first time in 5 years!

It just "Seems" a bit of a coincidence especially as you said "Yes mate, i can have a conversation without having Saints tinted specs on."

It doesn't appear that way to me!

PS

Why werent you moaning about Mary only getting 1 game & KFC not getting any earlier in the season?

Where you appalled at the RFL's incompetance/Bottling of it then????????

When you say these things when it goes against you it does seem to be a bit of Dummy Spitting and sour grapes IMO!

Steady pal.





Seriously though, there are aspects of the game which need looking at, before any more crazy systems and rules are introduced.

Well if you want to go down that route

Think what you like pal, it's your opinion.

At the time, i didnt think that KC touched Stosic that much, but on reflection, something should have been done yes. It didn't help though that Stosic was being a soft git and "had he, hadnt he fractured his eye socket".

I have complained about referees, rules, RFL for more than 5 years, which co-incides with when we have finished top. Finish top, second, third, etc... it's irrelevant, the RFL needs to buck its ideas up.

Quote ="OoOGazOoO"Yes mate, i can have a conversation without having Saints tinted specs on.

It's about time the RFL had some backbone.

Every now and then things happen within the game which question the integrity of the game and it makes it look a laughing stock.

It's no suprise that referees bottle so much on the pitch, when people above them in the organisation bottle it as much as they do and more besides.

The standard of officiating in the league is a joke, there isn't a single referee that you can say is 'good', they are all much of a muchness, and by that, i mean they're crap.

Some of the rules within the game are ridiculous and need changing, and the new playoff system is crazy too.

They have to stop being soft with suspensions, start officiating games better on the pitch, and also get rid of some crazy rules.'"

All of that

Plus this

I wasnt even stating rules are going against Saints.

I meant in general.

The kick out over dead ball line is a crap rule where you then start on your own 20.
The is it a knock on or was he going into the tackle is crap too, if its a knock on, it's a knock on.
Same with a forward pass, scrap the 'momentum' rule, if it is forward, it is forward, let's not get like rugby union where you can pass forward all the time.

Seems a bit of a Dummy Spit to me!

Whether he is right or wrong on some of those individual points is a different debate to me!

The same Panel that gave JJB 1 game also gave Mary 1 game, KFC None and Pryce 2 IIRC allowing him to play in the CC final a couple of weeks later.

When questioned about those decisions 99% of Saints fans defended them, you can't have it both ways!

I agree with you with reagrd to some of bull$hit the RFL come out with but I don't think you can have players coming out and saying what they like about referees/ the judiciary. As a professional, you just have to get on with the job.

As I said, I fully agree with you on one point, but there's no way any player form any should be coming out and saying things like that. It is the same as a coach criticising a referee and look what happened to Justin Morgan a few months back.

I agree.

Which is what i am getting at.

If an offence is committed on the field then they need to look at it properly without looking at the rugby league calendar 2/3/4 weeks later. "Ooooh he has a cup game here, he cant possibly miss that", and so on.

I agree with what you're saying, but JM was right.

That's beside the point.

Quite.

I'm sorry, but this is just like Millward and his "give players a criminal record for assault" idea.

Yes, the RFL have "bottled" it, but in Saints' favour. Wilkin and Cunningham are still allowed to spoil our beautiful game.

Quote ="eddiewaringsflatcap"Yes. I think JJB is an absoliute pillockk to be appealing to be homest. It is clear what he did. I had no rpblem with a one match ban, but to be appealing against it stinks in my opinion and probably that of Saints.'" maybe this is why he appealed www.superleague.co.uk/article.php?id=15282 some of the recent press quotes from your club and players look pretty silly now oh wait a minute

Quote ="eddiewaringsflatcap"Yes. I think JJB is an absoliute pillockk to be appealing to be homest. It is clear what he did. I had no rpblem with a one match ban, but to be appealing against it stinks in my opinion and probably that of Saints.'" maybe this is why he appealed www.superleague.co.uk/article.php?id=15282 some of the recent press quotes from your club and players look pretty silly now oh wait a minute

at last someone who talks sense

Quote ="DoubleAone"maybe this is why he appealed www.superleague.co.uk/article.php?id=15282 some of the recent press quotes from your club and players look pretty silly now oh wait a minute '" It's not Saints players that look stupid, it's the RFL, if it isn't a chicken wing tackle, then what was it.

Quote ="DoubleAone"maybe this is why he appealed www.superleague.co.uk/article.php?id=15282 some of the recent press quotes from your club and players look pretty silly now oh wait a minute '" It's not Saints players that look stupid, it's the RFL, if it isn't a chicken wing tackle, then what was it.

It was 'undue pressure on the joint'. It wasn't technically a chicken wing as illustrated in the NRL and over here recently. What it was, in fact, was a yellow and cheap attempt at injuring a player Leeds fear.

The RFL's clarification publication that the Leeds fans are creaming themselves over just states this. All they have done is state that it wasn't a chicken wing but that he used undue pressure in trying to turn the man over.

Still worthy of a ban.

Quote ="DoubleAone"maybe this is why he appealed www.superleague.co.uk/article.php?id=15282 '" Quote McClennan and Jones Buchanan gave a demonstration to the Disciplinary Committee of how the tackle was executed and argued that the tackle was not a ‘chicken wing’.'" Brian McClennan will now miss the rest of the season.

Quote ="DoubleAone"maybe this is why he appealed www.superleague.co.uk/article.php?id=15282 '" Quote McClennan and Jones Buchanan gave a demonstration to the Disciplinary Committee of how the tackle was executed and argued that the tackle was not a ‘chicken wing’.'" Brian McClennan will now miss the rest of the season.

He only appealed because of the £300 fine, apparently he gets paid peanuts...

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The Leeds fans are behaving like this news is like them winning SL.

3/10, better luck next time.

Are we? I think it's just that we've proven our point and you're team and staff and most others have it wrong.