I don't care - having another winger called Albert would make my day.

Kelly isn't a winger, he's a half back.

Top 10 for penalties conceded, top 5 for errors and top missed tackles so far is quite a bit more than an odd mistake! Agreed on Carney.

IF were looking at the chequebook, (and there's nothing to suggest the recent trend will be bucked), I'd like to go for some longer term options. Joe Mellor springs to mind.

Mellor isn't a bad shout. He looks like he has a lot about him and could thrive at a bigger club with better players.

Theo Fages would be a better, cheaper replacement for Lance in my opinon. Could cover the halves and at hooker.

Oh well - foiled again

You most certainly will be in need of one as this is Wellos last season.

A winger a winger my kingdom for a winger, any winger.

We have 2 or did you not notice.

why? Our wingers arnt world beaters, but not terrible either

FB and centre (imo) and replace those leaving, probably Masoe, Hohaia and Walsh.

The club has got recruitment right ever since Brown came in. So have to trust them that they will continue to bring in the right players.

Why a FB ? We have a very good one in lomax and two very good back ups in makinson and swift.

Centre ? To replace Percy or Turner ?

FB and centre are positions we have covered and would be one hell of a waste money. We are blessed at FB.

We have to replace outgoing players so we 100% need to replace Mose who is going. Lance will be going also so we need to replace him. Walsh is 50/50 if he's going and much will depend on how he is when he's back.

I think we need a good hard working tough prop that can put long mins in to accompany Amor to help him out.

I'd like to see another Backrow brought in. A tackle buster that's mobile. I know we have Vea, Greenwood as first choice but I still feel greenwood is a littke green and few years off being the final article. We have flash, Wilkin and jones (if he stays) but all are pretty rubbish with the ball.

I can see problems here, as a lot seem to want quite a few more players in than leaving. This isn't the trend of the whole league at the moment, and the best we can hope for is a 1 in 1 out situation. Which means if we're to bring in more/ better cover for the back 5, we'll lose out elsewhere.

Personally, i wouldn't replace Hohaia. Charnock can cover most of the spine, and I can't see what damage he could of done in the time Hohaia has had so far. And this will give us more flexibility in the rest of our transfers.

As has been said, Mose needs to be replaced. For me, the NRL is not the market for that. Props are a premium, and when you look at the success Perry, Asotasi, Pettybourne etc have had coming over, reputation is no indicator of impact. Coupled with the fact there's a couple of props in SL off contract who I wouldn't mind, and a couple more who could be decent projects, I'd rather get 2 from SL for the same price as 1 from the NRL!

Jones would be one of my top priorities to retain if Saints, simply because we won't be able to find the same quality of player for the same contract (the joys of homegrown) but if he's off to union, combine his money, Flanagans money, and Wilkins money and the back row market should be pretty open for us. Again there's a few in SL who I wouldn't mind at all, but I'd be more open to any option, especially if there's a similar mold player who can cover the centres as well.

Walsh is the toughest because there are so many unknowns. But as I said earlier in the thread, if it's a decision that's going to be left late, then (without wanting to turn into that supporter) time to get the chequebook out.

That only leaves Wellens and Dawson. We can either bring in another player to cover the back as people seem to want ... Or we can top up everyone's contracts and do everything we can to keep our kids happy...

We need a scrum half. Walsh is a top player, but even before his bad break last year struggled to string games together, and that is very unlikely to change this year, we can't wait till September to see if he can perform, Rush should be looking at 7s now as his number one priority. I would add a FB as number two priority, simply because Lomax cannot stay fit either. We cannot continue to carry players who don't play consistently, week in, week out.

On what basis can Charnock replace Hohaia? He's made one first team appearance and none of us really know if he'll even make it. The fact he isn't even mentioned in any of our 19 man squads suggests he isn't yet near it. Hohaia may be out of favour right now, but he's still an experienced player that can cover 1, 6, 7 and 9 effectively.

For me we definitely need some extra cover at hooker / half back to replace Hohaia because we don't have that flexibility in our current squad. If Roby gets injured we'd be screwed if we didn't replace Hohaia.

On the grounds that I'd rather spend the money elsewhere. Charnock can play similar positions, and would have similar impact that Hohaia has had so far. Those out of contract in a similar mould will either cost the same as Hohaia, which is a waste, or be no better than Charnock.

If Roby is injured next year, Charnock gets game time. He can't be any worse than some we've had in recent years (*cough* Howarth! *cough*) if he's no good, the next youngster comes in, or we find a better replacement next year.

Lomax's fitness is becoming a concern. If this lastest one is long term then the club seriously needs to look at alternatives. I'm a big fan of Lomax and I hope he comes through this latest setback but the it's something the club need to be monitoring closely.

I agree that we don't need to worry about a specialist full back or winger, but another versatile back who could cover 1-5 would be handy, especially as Lomax seems increasingly fragile and Hohaia and Wellens won't be around as options. Not essential, though.

I'm not sure I agree on us needing another back rower. Greenwood is a real handful in attack and I reckon he'll be ready to take on more responsibility after a full season, and then we may well see the likes of Olly Davies and Matty Fozard challenging for places. We've also always got the option of playing LMS there (although KC doesn't seem to be going down that route).

For me, if Walsh, Masoe and Hohaia all go, then it needs to be about quality rather than quantity. We should go out and get a good scrum half and good prop, and then maybe a handy 7/9 to spell with Roby and provide backup in the halves (someone like Pita Godinet, for instance). Any leftover cap room should then be invested in signing up our most promising youngsters to longer contracts.

Spend the money where? Surely you'd want to reinforce and cover positions that we're light in, especially key positions such as hooker and half back?

If Masoe, Hohaia and Walsh leave we should be looking at like for like replacements because we haven't got the cover in our current squad to cover it and those are key areas of the pitch. If we didn't replace them, we'd be much weaker.

I think we are ok for Wings and Centres, ( this is assuming Jones re-signs).
We could on the face of it do with another halfback. (Hewitt is a maybe but has got no game time so far)
Hooker (well I think we need a replacement for Robes, but we seem to play him come what may so not sure what we would do with one)
A prop could be handy.
Fullback, again assuming we have cover at centre and therefore wing with Jones, then I see no reason to get a fullback.

Halfback/Hooker/Prop for me.

A Jason Hooper type player would be great who could cover anywhere in the backs

I see what your saying. Obviously mose, lance and walsh are priority (if they go) to replace.

I'd like a prop that does what props should do. I think we can use Walmsley as impact prop who Imo brings much better impact than mose who I don't think gives us much impact at all. So Id like a big tough prop in the Amor mould.

I don't know why but I just think we lack in the Backrow. I'm not knocking Greenwood or vea at all as they been pretty good. Greenwood is young and goes missing in large spells but that may change next year. I'd like a Backrow that doesn't rely on a pass for a tackle bust. Both greenwood and Vea like the short ball (greenwood) or the inside ball (vea) but I think we lack someone who has the power to bust without that pass.

Most teams have a first choice spine, and when one or more get injured, they either move players around to cover, or bring kids in. Imo no other team in the league this year has better cover for the spine than hohaia, but for me it's too expensive a luxury, we'd be better without.

I'd really like to see a transfer summary that looks something like (unlikely but achievable imo):

in: Whitehead (Catalans), Mullally (Huddersfield), Paea (Hull fc), Clare (Castleford)
Out: Hohaia, Masoe, Wilkin, Wellens, Flanagan, Walker, Dawson
Retained: Jones, Walsh*, Savelio, Hand

7 out, 4 in, with 3 more promoted (Charnock, Ashworth and Fozard?) some real quality brought into the pack in Whitehead and Paea, some more depth in the front row which I think we need, and Clare is better than Dawson as cover for the back 5 imo (just my pick from the ooc list, others may have other preferences), as well as ensuring we keep on top of our youngsters and ensure there's no wandering eyes

*if Walsh turns around and says he's leaving, then the options are retaining Wilkin for a year, or getting the chequebook out, because I don't feel like there's a solution in the ooc lists, and by the time it's likely to be resolved the few who might be an option will have been snapped up.

Oh man! Clare from cas? You can't be serious!

Whitehead is all class, he's great runner of the ball and has great pair of hands. I'd take him in a heartbeat.

Paea is also a good player and we should have gone for him when off contract.

Paea is off contract this year

as are all the players I've mentioned.

I quite like Clare, utility backs are hard to come by at the moment, and there's no one better imo - it's that or stick with Dawson!