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| Quote ="SaintsFan"Actually, I have never been Potter's biggest critic. I was still on the fence until a couple of months ago and said so on here.
I will say this though, [url=http://www.skysports.com/story/0,19528,12206_6369498,00.htmlhe could certainly do with some PR training[/url:
[i"His kicking game, his prowess and his knowledge of Knowsley Road was helpful but him being available was the key.
"We didn't really have anyone else. Our other option was young Jamie Ellis who is just back from a knee re-construction."[/i
Beautifully put, especially after not contacting Smith for months.
I will be very glad to see the back of him. I have said that before. No point repeating it ad nauseum really, is there?'"
On what Basis would you like to see the back of him? For getting within 80 minutes of a CC final and finishing second in the table after a season, decimited by injury?
Id rather have kept Potter than apoint Sizzler and I know for a fact pretty much all the saints players feel the same.
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| Quote ="KCtheKing"Id rather have kept Potter than apoint Sizzler and I know for a fact pretty much all the saints players feel the same.'"
Yeah, yeah! How many times have posters claimed to know facts where Saints players and their opinions are concerned. Apparently, I think it was last season, there were arguments aplenty between Saints players and Mick Potter but your facts say they'd all rather play for him than Rolls. It's all bollox.
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| Quote ="SaintsFan"Yeah, yeah! How many times have posters claimed to know facts where Saints players and their opinions are concerned. Apparently, I think it was last season, there were arguments aplenty between Saints players and Mick Potter but your facts say they'd all rather play for him than Rolls. It's all bollox.'"
No, I tell you what was bollox, the stories of the fallings out. When you see the saints players around town after a few drinks when they are likely to open up, ask their opinions on Potter.
Anyway, you never answered my question, on what basis are you glad to see the back of him?
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| Quote ="St pete"I think potter has done a awesome job this year and should be proud with what he leaves behind when he joins the bulls.'"
Agreed.
Personally I,ve never ever slagged Mick Potter off these past 2 seasons, because I know he's battling on 2 fronts. Getting the young players through and still getting the team to achieve something.
Our previous 2 coaches had 3 legends in Long/Sculthorpe/Cunningham, Mick potter has created a team that will survive and compete at the highest level next season without the 3 mentioned.
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| Quote ="Judder Man"Agreed.
Personally I,ve never ever slagged Mick Potter off these past 2 seasons, because I know he's battling on 2 fronts. Getting the young players through and still getting the team to achieve something.
Our previous 2 coaches had 3 legends in Long/Sculthorpe/Cunningham, Mick potter has created a team that will survive and compete at the highest level next season without the 3 mentioned.'"
I disagree.
All saints key cogs, that will help them compete for years into the future, were there when potter took over.
Saints level of performance visibly dropped when potter took over last year. as opposed to the anderson days.
All potters done is maintained.
Losing sean long does not count as a major period of transition.
Saints have a great youth system and foundations will always be there for success.
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| Quote ="KCtheKing"No, I tell you what was bollox, the stories of the fallings out. When you see the saints players around town after a few drinks when they are likely to open up, ask their opinions on Potter. '"
Right. They're going to be sharing their inner thoughts with fans about their employer on nights out around town!
Quote Anyway, you never answered my question, on what basis are you glad to see the back of him?'"
I've covered that in previous posts. If you want to know my answer, take a look at the many threads on the subject. We're almost at the end of his tenure now and I'm not going to get into another discussion about him.
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| Quote ="St pete"I think potter has done a awesome job this year and should be proud with what he leaves behind when he joins the bulls.'"
Totally agree. The fans who wanted rid of him are pretty clueless.
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| Quote ="SaintsFan"Right. They're going to be sharing their inner thoughts with fans about their employer on nights out around town!
I've covered that in previous posts. If you want to know my answer, take a look at the many threads on the subject. We're almost at the end of his tenure now and I'm not going to get into another discussion about him.'"
Yes, they will, they are very accomodating as I know a couple personally.
As for your second paragraph, im asking you to tell me as I cba digging up your previous posts. Or is it because you have realised how much of a kneejerk reaction you gave?
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| Quote ="Carlos Alberto"Totally agree. The fans who wanted rid of him are pretty clueless.'"
What people forget about Potters first season, he couldn't bring any new players in and had to adapt to the players we already had.
At Catalan he liked having a big rough pack with the likes of mogg and greenshields making stuff happen. At saints he had a small pack, a scrumhalf on his last legs.
It was hard for him to stamp his own mark on saints in the first year but this year it seems he's adapted to our players and the players have adapted to his way of thinking which shows on the pitch.
I'd like to have seen saints under potter next year with perry, LMS and shenton coming in and sia being fit. That's more like the big rough pack he had at Catalan.
If I'm being honest I think potter going is our loss and the bulls gain.
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| Quote ="KCtheKing"As for your second paragraph, im asking you to tell me as I cba digging up your previous posts. '"
Tough poo. If you want to find out my opinion, go look. If not, then you'll be talking to yourself.
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| Quote ="St pete"What people forget about Potters first season, he couldn't bring any new players in and had to adapt to the players we already had.
At Catalan he liked having a big rough pack with the likes of mogg and greenshields making stuff happen. At saints he had a small pack, a scrumhalf on his last legs.
It was hard for him to stamp his own mark on saints in the first year but this year it seems he's adapted to our players and the players have adapted to his way of thinking which shows on the pitch.
I'd like to have seen saints under potter next year with perry, LMS and shenton coming in and sia being fit. That's more like the big rough pack he had at Catalan.
If I'm being honest I think potter going is our loss and the bulls gain.'"
Agree, 100%.
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| Quote ="Carlos Alberto"Totally agree. The fans who wanted rid of him are pretty clueless.'"
Translation: the fans who wanted rid of Potter just hold a different opinion of him than you do.
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| Great coach, as proved at Catalan and as proved at Saints given what he's had to work with.
Now if only he wore Ray Bans, punched the air and got friendly with the cheerleaders - we could be looking at a living legend.
Sadly, I think he's taken on a poisoned chalice at Bulls.
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| Quote ="SaintsFan"Translation: the fans who wanted rid of Potter just hold a different opinion of him than you do.'"
Not having a dig and not looking for a heated debate( im just back from a 7 day ban) but can i just ask:
Why don't you like/rate potter?
Do you not think he's done well this year with our current injury problems?
Would DA have done a better job?
Do you feel he has done anything good in his 2yrs at saints ?
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| Quote ="Mr. Messy"... got the gameplan spot on last night.
Down the middle, nothing fancy, territory and big defence.
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That's the only game plan he has!
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| Quote ="Cragganmore Kid"Great coach, as proved at Catalan and as proved at Saints given what he's had to work with.
Now if only he wore Ray Bans, punched the air and got friendly with the cheerleaders - we could be looking at a living legend.
Sadly, I think he's taken on a poisoned chalice at Bulls.'"
I think he's on a no lose situation at bulls next year. He can't do worse than the two guys they have had in charge this year.
If he gets the bulls into the play offs then nobody at the bulls can moan.
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| Quote ="St pete"I think he's on a no lose situation at bulls next year. He can't do worse than the two guys they have had in charge this year.
If he gets the bulls into the play offs then nobody at the bulls can moan.'"
Old team, getting older. And, from an outsider's perspective, something seems to be just 'wrong' within the club.
If they do make the play-offs, then I'd say that once again Potter will have proven his credentials as a quality coach. I think it's too big an ask, though.
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| Quote ="Cragganmore Kid"Old team, getting older. And, from an outsider's perspective, something seems to be just 'wrong' within the club.
If they do make the play-offs, then I'd say that once again Potter will have proven his credentials as a quality coach. I think it's too big an ask, though.'"
I'd put money on them making the eight next year.
They have signed a few ok players that will improve them a great deal next year. Also orford will be fit which is massive for them.
Bryn and elima will improve there pack.
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| Quote ="St pete"Not having a dig and not looking for a heated debate( im just back from a 7 day ban) but can i just ask:
Why don't you like/rate potter?
Do you not think he's done well this year with our current injury problems?
Would DA have done a better job?
Do you feel he has done anything good in his 2yrs at saints ?'"
I will repeat, since you have just returned from holiday ( ): if you want to know what I think of Potter then you'll have to go searching. I really cannot be bothered repeating what I have said before in different discussions and I do not want the usual tirade of insults for expressing an opinion which doesn't go down well with some on here. I'm sure if you think about then you will remember the points I've put forward before now. You've disagreed with them often enough!
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| Quote ="SaintsFan"I will repeat, since you have just returned from holiday (
): if you want to know what I think of Potter then you'll have to go searching. I really cannot be bothered repeating what I have said before in different discussions and I do not want the usual tirade of insults for expressing an opinion which doesn't go down well with some on here. I'm sure if you think about then you will remember the points I've put forward before now. You've disagreed with them often enough!'"
I have only disagreed on the fact you don't think he's done a very good job at saints.
I don't know all your opinions on why.
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| Quote ="St pete"I have only disagreed on the fact you don't think he's done a very good job at saints.
I don't know all your opinions on why.'"
Some people always used to believe the world was flat, no matter what was said. Sometimes, it is best just to let them worry about falling off the edge.
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| Quote ="Carlos Alberto"Some people always used to believe the world was flat, no matter what was said. Sometimes, it is best just to let them worry about falling off the edge.'"
You're assuming the people worried.
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| Granted its from someone who doesn't see saints every week, but Potter seems to have kept you at a similar standard (results wise) whilst losing key personell and not replacing them with new signings. Long was the heartbeat of your side, and then add that to the injuries you've had this year to finish 2nd surely constitutes a very successful season.
In my opinion the least he deserved was another year with the raft of quality signings your making. The youngsters he's developed will stand you in good stead for years to come, and your filling the gaps with quality signings.
For me, your the team to beat next year (dependant on your new coach)
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| Quote ="St pete"I'd put money on them making the eight next year.
They have signed a few ok players that will improve them a great deal next year. Also orford will be fit which is massive for them.
Bryn and elima will improve there pack.'"
Like salford's cast off Sibbet.
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| Quote ="St pete"Not having a dig and not looking for a heated debate( im just back from a 7 day ban) but can i just ask:'"
Her arguments have tended to go like this:
Quote Why don't you like/rate potter?'"
He isn't Daniel Anderson, isn't as emotive as Anderson and does not look as good in sunglasses.
Quote Do you not think he's done well this year with our current injury problems?'"
No. The players have won the matches, Potter has lost all our games due to not being Daniel Anderson.
Quote Would DA have done a better job?'"
Yes.
Quote Do you feel he has done anything good in his 2yrs at saints ?'"
No.
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