Nothing to do with Saints dominating and Wigan chasing the game, no siree bob.

As we all know - Wigan's mistakes are all unforced, while everybody else's are forced by the unstoppable Wigan machine.

We'll see Saturday.

Well if you forced that first knock on from Deacon you must have been offside. Bent ref again.



Sadly for us that set the tone of the first half hour.

Wigan players don't ever feel pressure, Madge won't allow it, so it will never ever happen again.

I don't think we played Leigh Acadamy but we played a team made up of our under 18's and the under 20's. Or at least that's what it said on the TV.

Thanks i can tell the mrs i was right then



She said you played Leigh Academy but i said it would be logical if you played your own Academy

Silly you for not knowing that earlier

I see a little more spirit amongst the Saints faithful this time. Not read the whole thread could not be d but nice to see more confidence in our abilities than two weeks ago.

Last time I said it would be 20-24. I was a little out this week I expect a clear 10 points if not more in Saints favour.

The biggest challenge for Saints is the concentration levels. With a week off we may not be as quick into the game. But I think Royce knows this. I think Wigan will struggle to score in the first half and with no Wigan crowd to give several repeat sets. The penalty advantage will be with us this time.

I saw nothing against Catalan to make me think Wigan had improved massively over the week. Catalan gave up the ga.e for me after the second disallowed try.
Wigan are there for the taking our forwards are better and no doubt after thirty minutes of no scoring from Wigan it will be a matter of lets hope Sam can pull us out of this one.

32 - 20. Wigan to get a few last minute tries once the game is dead.

I'm right cause I'm a Saint.

Its safe to say i will be supporting the winners of this game in the final.

Since when have you been a SAINTS FAN







I'm glad that you've finally seen the light

Saints by 12, although sadly, I don't think it'll be the traditional Grand Final pairing...

I would love it if it was. Can you just imagine the faces on the SKY team and wigan and Wire.

Wigan fans are way over confident.

They were smashed by saints 2 weeks ago, the scoreline flattered.

Against catalans, I haven't seen catalans look so knackered in a long time. 5 mins into the 2nd half their team couldn't be bothered to get back onside until about the 4th play.

Great commitment eh? Wigan were playing a team that couldn't be d after the first 20.

Fair play, they took advantage and beat them well. But wigan fans seem to be deluding themselves that it was some scintillating unstoppable exhibition of rugby, come on, get real.

The logic wigan fans are using, that they played poorly and lost narrowly, so better performance this week = win.

Sh*t, we aren't on the playground here, sport doesn't work like that. Leeds beat hull by 30, who beat warrington, does that mean leeds will win on friday?

No.

It will be a close contest and whoever wins will lose against tony smiths unstoppable juggernaught of success in the final.

What a bell end you really are. Wigan had two home games in a row where the price wasnt included in the season ticket. Bear in mind when you go to a game majority are families. The reason i didnt go with my family was purely financial reasons. Add to this no Catalan fans in attendance.

I'd actually agree with most that.

I still think Wigan will win, the lack of depth in the saints squad should tell with the games that matter.

It does reflect well on simmons and the squad that they've performed so well in a transitional period.

The doubts I have mainly circle around the fact that Wigan have been settled as a good team for a while, whereas we seem to have just figured out how to beat you.
Our victory the other week was more convincing than the scoreline suggests. I know a lot of WIgan posters are saying how badly they played, but there's obviously a massive argument that it was down to how well we went at them. Unfortunately, the season's overall record has not given me the confidence that we can turn a big team over two games in a row. Hopeful our current form will shine through and we'll turn you over again.

It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles, or where the doer of deeds could have done them better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood; who strives valiantly; who errs, who comes short again and again, because there is no effort without error and shortcoming; but who does actually strive to do the deeds; who knows great enthusiasms, the great devotions; who spends himself in a worthy cause; who at the best knows in the end the triumph of high achievement, and who at the worst, if he fails, at least fails while daring greatly, so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who neither know victory nor defeat.

Teddy Roosevelt, love it.

Quite right, at I Half Time I texted a couple of mates who are Saints fans asking how we were only 8 behind given how much we were dominated. I never expected us to be able to play 6 derby games in a year and not lose, so as much as Saints deserve credit for their win, it doesn't bother me all that much now we have another crack at you in a do-or-die situation.

Saints went well at us, of that there's no doubt but there is an element of our under-performance that explains not so much the score in the game but the dominance of it.

For Saturday, I expect us to come out 10 times faster than last time we played you. Should be a cracker.

We've had similar periods of dominance in most of the other games against Wigan though, with the exception of the Stobart game, without our halves being composed enough to do anything about it.

Hopefully Lomaskell now have the faith in their own abilities to trouble you.

Wigan 19 -

Sam Tomkins, George Carmont, Pat Richards, Paul Deacon, Thomas Leuluai, Michael McIlorum, Andy Coley, Harrison Hansen, Joel Tomkins, Sean O'Loughlin, Paul Prescott, Jeff Lima, Ryan Hoffman, Brett Finch, Eamon O'Carroll, Lee Mossop, Liam Farrell, Chris Tuson, Josh Charnley

The worst of these was the semi final, where we had so much possesion on their line.
Gaskell wasn't playing then, though. Perhaps he was on the bench but he only came on towards the end?

Yeah, Pryce was busy doing a Trent Barrett disappearing act.

Having looked at the line-ups I'm going for 76-0.

Nothing to trouble us too much there.

I reckon Hoffman will be the biggest problem for us on Saturday.