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| Quote ="saint at wire"Come on you know he means £100K+
I'd be happy to have him at Saints. Got to be better than Dean!'"
Well i hear we offered 105k. This didnt match yours. Or Warringtons offers, But it wasnt the money he has left for, He wants to win things, And he feels he can help you do that
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| Quote ="Dettoriman"Well i hear we offered 105k. This didnt match yours. Or Warringtons offers, But it wasnt the money he has left for, He wants to win things, And he feels he can help you do that'"
I'd be a bit surprised if he's really on well over £100k. The truth is noone knows what we, cas, or anyone else has offered him
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| So perhaps it's Warrington that have signed him, not us?
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| Not a big fan - he's definitley the third best centre England has.
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| Quote ="Dettoriman"Well i hear we offered 105k. This didnt match yours. Or Warringtons offers,'" I can't beleive that Wire would offer over 105K for a centre when they've already got Bridge, Atkins and King. In a time of salary cap balancing, it would be madness.
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| Looks like hes signing for us. Cracking news, best english centre by a country mile.
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| Quote ="Saint_Marc"Looks like hes signing for us. Cracking news, best english centre by a country mile.'"
Is he balls
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| Quote ="Wire_In_The_Blood"icon_lol.gif
Is he balls'"
Hes no Chris Bridge/Ryan Atkins thats for sure.
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| Quote ="Saint_Marc"Hes no Chris Bridge/Ryan Atkins thats for sure.'"
Very overrated is Shenton, he's average in a Cas team. ridge is easily the best centre England has.
1. Bridge
2. Atkins
3. Shenton
In that order
NOTE: Did you not watch Bridge against the French and how good he was? His try assists, general play etc. Shenton was very very quiet, and that was against France god help him if he makes the team against the Aussies or the Kiwis.
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| Quote ="Wire_In_The_Blood"
Bridge is easily the best centre England has.
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| Agree completely - I think the stats prove Bridge is better
Michaerl Senton
7 Tries
2 Try assists
0 Goals
0 Drop Goals
1017 Meters
157 Carries
313 Tackles
6 Offloads
6 Attacking Kicks
64 Runs from dummy half
21 Tackle Busts
36 Marker tackles
4 Clean Breaks
0 Forty twenty
6 Kicks in general play
0 Missed goals
28 Missed tackles
19 Errors
6 Penalties
0 Red cards
0 Yellow cards
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Chris Bridge
Tries 4
Try assists 14
Goals 33
Drop Goals 0
Meters 1058
Carries 171
Tackles 262
Offloads 16
Attacking Kicks 16
Runs from dummy half 23
Tackle Busts 30
Marker tackles 28
Clean Breaks 11
Forty twenty 0
Kicks in general play 21
Missed goals 20
Missed tackles 15
Errors 18
Penalties 4
Red cards 0
Yellow cards 1
Also Bridge has been out for a big chunk of the season...
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Not that I want to join this childish tete-a-tete, but if you know anything about RL you'll know that comparing the stats of a centre from a top 2 club with those of a centre from a struggling bottom 3rd club is basically meaningless.
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Not that I want to join this childish tete-a-tete, but if you know anything about RL you'll know that comparing the stats of a centre from a top 2 club with those of a centre from a struggling bottom 3rd club is basically meaningless.
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Quote ="Dux"Not that I want to join this childish tete-a-tete, but if you know anything about RL you'll know that comparing the stats of a centre from a top 2 club with those of a centre from a struggling bottom 3rd club is basically meaningless.'"
Fair enough
Heres Shenton compared to an England centre palying Rugby for a team second from bottom. Again the stats don't favour Shenton and favour Clubb alot more.
Does this mean Shentons England's fourth best centre.
Link: www.superleague.co.uk/statistics ... eason=2010
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Quote ="Dux"Not that I want to join this childish tete-a-tete, but if you know anything about RL you'll know that comparing the stats of a centre from a top 2 club with those of a centre from a struggling bottom 3rd club is basically meaningless.'"
Fair enough
Heres Shenton compared to an England centre palying Rugby for a team second from bottom. Again the stats don't favour Shenton and favour Clubb alot more.
Does this mean Shentons England's fourth best centre.
Link: www.superleague.co.uk/statistics ... eason=2010
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Quote ="Wire_74"Fair enough
Heres Shenton compared to an England centre palying Rugby for a team second from bottom. Again the stats don't favour Shenton and favour Clubb alot more.
Does this mean Shentons England's fourth best centre.
Link: www.superleague.co.uk/statistics ... eason=2010'"
Yes It does.
Warrington have all the best players In the world and your the greatest team ever.
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Quote ="Wire_74"Fair enough
Heres Shenton compared to an England centre palying Rugby for a team second from bottom. Again the stats don't favour Shenton and favour Clubb alot more.
Does this mean Shentons England's fourth best centre.
Link: www.superleague.co.uk/statistics ... eason=2010'"
Yes It does.
Warrington have all the best players In the world and your the greatest team ever.
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Very overrated is Shenton, he's average in a Cas team. ridge is easily the best centre England has.
1. Bridge
2. Atkins
3. Shenton
In that order
NOTE: Did you not watch Bridge against the French and how good he was? His try assists, general play etc. Shenton was very very quiet, and that was against France god help him if he makes the team against the Aussies or the Kiwis.'"
Hes played against the Aussies and Kiwis and gave a very decent account of himself, before going off injured in the Final and then England falling to pieces after that.
Warrington have all these players that are the best players in the league, yet they have only beat one team in the top 4 all season, and they aren't top of the league. How can that be possible.
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Quote ="Wire_74"Fair enough
Heres Shenton compared to an England centre palying Rugby for a team second from bottom. Again the stats don't favour Shenton and favour Clubb alot more.
Does this mean Shentons England's fourth best centre.
Link: www.superleague.co.uk/statistics ... eason=2010'"
Do they? They show that Clubb has had a lot more ball than Shenton. But he has scored fewer tries and missed more tackles.
I think most Saints fans are aware that they are getting a work in progress with Shenton, and are quietly pleased about it. All the panicking about who the best centre is seems to be coming from Warrington, which is, perhaps, telling.
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Quote ="Wire_74"Fair enough
Heres Shenton compared to an England centre palying Rugby for a team second from bottom. Again the stats don't favour Shenton and favour Clubb alot more.
Does this mean Shentons England's fourth best centre.
Link: www.superleague.co.uk/statistics ... eason=2010'"
Do they? They show that Clubb has had a lot more ball than Shenton. But he has scored fewer tries and missed more tackles.
I think most Saints fans are aware that they are getting a work in progress with Shenton, and are quietly pleased about it. All the panicking about who the best centre is seems to be coming from Warrington, which is, perhaps, telling.
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| Warrington offered him more money but he chose saints.
Obvioulsy Tony Smith doesnt rate the centres he already has....
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| Quote ="Saint_Marc"Warrington offered him more money but he chose saints.
Obvioulsy Tony Smith doesnt rate the centres he already has....'"
Where has this been comfirmed?
I very much doubt that is true considering we have three great centres already and a very hot prospect in Rhys Evans coming through the ranks.
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| Quote ="Wire_In_The_Blood"Shenton was very very quiet, and that was against France god help him if he makes the team against the Aussies or the Kiwis.'"
Let me take you back to the Four Nations final, last November. England outplaying the Aussies up until the hour mark. Shenton comes off injured after a severe clash of heads, and Australia score 4 or 5 tries all down the side Shenton would have been. A narrow England lead becomes a comfortable Australian victory.
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| Quote ="Wire_74"Where has this been comfirmed?'"
So if you are such a strong believer in the stats and how it categorically proves Bridge is better than Shenton, do you also believe Graham's show how much better a prop he's always been than Morley?
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| Quote ="Wire_74"Agree completely - I think the stats prove Bridge is better'" Hasn't bridge played alot of games in other positions, like scrum half?
You seem very determined to tell us how much better your players are than ours.
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| I think the comments prove what a quality 'young british' centre were getting. In a quality side and as he develops physically he'll undoubtedly improve.
With the pack he'll be playing behind next year let's see the stats in 12 months time!
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| It's a petty argument, but it's also a pointless one as senior and gleeson are still better than the lot of them.
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| Quote ="Smurf"It's a petty argument, '" it is, but for all those who want to throw mud at us for it, judge him on how he plays when (and if) he pulls on a Saints jersey.
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