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| Quote ="Judder Man"I,ve just checked the Widnes team for Good Friday they had 13 players on Good Friday playing in the same postions today Easter Monday.
We had 13 players missing or out of position today yet it was possible to win this game despite the handicap.
Our biggest problem regardless of which players we select is our completion rate. Our games with Wakefield, Huddersfield, Castleford, Wigan and now Widnes is around the 50%, we are not respecting the ball.
Wigan and Leeds are operating around 90% add the fact that they have a good structured defence then Saints have lots of improvement to make, can they respond at Leeds next week.'"
Completion rate is very poor but we've also dropped off in every department since the Leeds game. Injuries are disrupting us but failure to start well, drop balls etc are just basic school boy rugby.
The likes of Amor, swift, Percy, and the lads rested today should feel fresh for next week so it's a fresh start and need to get back to playing how we was pre hudds. |
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| Quote ="Judder Man"I,ve just checked the Widnes team for Good Friday they had 13 players on Good Friday playing in the same postions today Easter Monday.
We had 13 players missing or out of position today yet it was possible to win this game despite the handicap.
Our biggest problem regardless of which players we select is our completion rate. Our games with Wakefield, Huddersfield, Castleford, Wigan and now Widnes is around the 50% mark, we are not respecting the ball.
Wigan and Leeds are operating around 90% add the fact that they have a good structured defence then Saints have lots of improvement to make, can they respond at Leeds next week.'"
Difference is that Saints have a stronger depth than Widnes. If the same players are playing every week they will be tiring with no rotation. Playing on injuries too. Ah Van, Marsh, Mellor,Clough, Clarke, O Carroll and Craven missing. Anyway you will be a top 4 side and I be happy if made the playoffs. |
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| Quote ="St pete"Completion rate is very poor but we've also dropped off in every department since the Leeds game. Injuries are disrupting us but failure to start well, drop balls etc are just basic school boy rugby.
The likes of Amor, swift, Percy, and the lads rested today should feel fresh for next week so it's a fresh start and need to get back to playing how we was pre hudds.'"
It,s hard to pin down why we are playing as we are. Is it an accumulation of injuries, form, apathy, rub of the green,pressure, improved opposition etc.
Last months game against Leeds should have set the standard for the rest of the season and not the beginning of a possible peaks and troughs scenario.
I think Brown needs to adopt a no nonsense approach instead of recognizing the problem, like you say a lot of it is school boy rugby stuff, maybe McManus needs to target the team collectively. |
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| Quote ="Judder Man"I think Brown needs to adopt a no nonsense approach instead of recognizing the problem, like you say a lot of it is school boy rugby stuff, maybe McManus needs to target the team collectively.'"
I can't see Brown adopting a no-nonsense approach. He has said in the press that he's not at all bothered by today's loss and prior to Wigan game he said it was only two points and he wanted to take the emotion out of the game. Brown has also said that the team had to learn lessons from the Hudds game, which clearly they haven't done. He's casual and so is his team. |
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| Quote ="Judder Man"I disagree we had lots of round pegs in square holes today, most of our experienced players playing out of position trying to create an understanding, you can do it with a few players but not with the dissruption we had today.
We had Lance playing full back and hooker, Soliola and LMS playing centre, Wheeler on the wing.
Our pivotal players are Lomax, Walsh, Lance, Roby and Wilkin all of these where either not available or playing out of their optimum postion.
Put these players back in the team alongside Amor, Walmsley, Manu, Swift and Percival we would have thrashed Widnes, we had a 13 player abscence/adjustment to make, that does not include the young ones making there first appearance this season.
Widnes could be a promising top 8 side this season they more or less put there first choice team out, Saints put a patched up team based on Leeds next week, it was always going to be a banana skin game and we slipped up.'"
marsh, ahvan, mellor, o'carroll, clarke, joseph, allen, were all missing from our first choice team.......get over it you lost ¬¬¬ |
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| Quote ="Viking Warrior"marsh, ahvan, mellor, o'carroll, clarke, joseph, allen, were all missing from our first choice team.......get over it you lost ¬¬¬'"
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| Quote ="Noel Cleal"Who?'"
They are Widnes first choice. The weakened team excuse doesn't work. We had a better 17 than them today and lost. |
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| Quote ="Noel Cleal"Who?'"
Your ignorance isn't becoming.
They are Widnes players, much like Noel Cleal was. Next time just ing google it. |
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Just seen some of the tries from the game. How did the lads look to cope with the field of play. I forgot it was a non-grass pitch.
A bit like Batley's hill it does allow a marginal home advantage in terms of players being used to it in terms of diving on it and having the right kinda studs (if they use studs on that pitch)
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