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| Quote ="SaintsFan"It was a shoulder charge, as was Wilkin's. Both are illegal, both players know this, yet both were idiotic enough to use it. And Gardner had already committed the cardinal sin of coming off the line, so leaving a 10m wide gap for a try to be scored but then that doesn't surprise me either as Gardner has been pants this season.'"
I think you'll find there is a difference to Wilkin's and Gardners . Wilkin went looking for him and got him GArdner was trying to shut down an overlap. I can also assure you Gardner didnt have much of any choice as he was outnumbered , it was rush out or look like a tool just stood still |
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| Quote ="No1 Saint"it was rush out or look like a tool just stood still'"
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On your point about the shoulder charges, they are both on report for shoulder charges so presumably that interfering old goat on the sidelines thought they looked the same. However, Wilkin's did look more aggressive, and wasn't actually even remotely necessary while Gardner's could be justified as per your post. |
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| Quote ="bewareshadows"I don't think Meli was looking to kill the player. He just got stepped and flung out an arm.
Whether the injury or ban will be longer is debatable.
All in all, we brought this on ourselves as a team. Get get a penalty from the first kick and stuff it up. Watching that game you would think we do not like the ball. Lance in defense is aweful. I'd say get shut but we have no one left.
The war or whatever has gone on with Gaskell is biting us badly. As we have players playing all over the place.
Unless we can keep the ball we are going to get shot to pieces.'"
Our best chance is to hope Dobson's injury means he cant carry on or carries on limping round and hope for some more Eden brainfarts |
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| Quote ="SaintsFan"icon_lol.gif I like that, for some reason.
On your point about the shoulder charges, they are both on report for shoulder charges so presumably that interfering old goat on the sidelines thought they looked the same. However, Wilkin's did look more aggressive, and wasn't actually even remotely necessary while Gardner's could be justified as per your post.'"
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Looks like it's not all over!
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A lot better so far. KR will leak points as long as we can keep them out.
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Nicely taken try. We've been benefiting from a more composed game. And just as I write that we give the ball away in our 20.
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| Quote ="BackrowSaint"A lot better so far. KR will leak points as long as we can keep them out.'"
The fact we spend most of the first half tackling and we are down to 12 means we will probablt leak points too |
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Sia sacks the quarterback
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Brilliant defence by Sia then!
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| Quote ="Dux"Nicely taken try. We've been benefiting from a more composed game. And just as I write that we give the ball away in our 20.'"
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Lance Hohaia has been dreadful in defence today.
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| Quote ="BackrowSaint"Lance Hohaia has been dreadful in defence today.'"
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Good job they kicked on zero, well done Wello
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Brainless Rugby !!!! I mean what value is Howarth adding out there ?? he is literally just a body taking up space and getting in the way. At least Wello is putting in a shift in defence even if he is utterly useless in attack
Game over now. Pathetic performance from the worst Saints side in a long long long time.
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Apparently the last time we were knocked out of the Challenge Cup in round one was in 1993.
What was the team like in 1993? I wasn't watching the game at all back then so I have no idea.
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There's way too many average players out there. From today, for me, only Makinson, Soliola, Walmsley and Turner deserve any credit. In general, we're nowhere near good enough!
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Ah well. A gutsy performance, I think, but with the exception of 15 mins completely brainless. If we don't sign a half back mid-season then we can write this year off. Not that we didn't know that already.
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| Quote ="St. Rughead"There's way too many average players out there. From today, for me, only Makinson, Soliola and Turner deserve any credit. In general, we're nowhere near good enough!'"
I don't think Walmsley did anything wrong did he?
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| Quote ="SaintsFan"Apparently the last time we were knocked out of the Challenge Cup in round one was in 1993.
What was the team like in 1993? I wasn't watching the game at all back then so I have no idea.'"
Funnily enough, lacking a prop and a half back. |
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| Quote ="SaintsFan"I don't think Walmsley did anything wrong did he?
Makinson always plays up in the big matches. Sign of a real winner, that.'"
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| Quote ="St. Rughead"There's way too many average players out there. From today, for me, only Makinson, Soliola and Turner deserve any credit. In general, we're nowhere near good enough!'"
Add Walmsley to that and I would agree. Tommy our MOM in my opinion, Turner tried really really hard (shoulder charge excepted), but sadly, except for Sia, there isn't a single experienced player worth a mention |
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| Quote ="Dee"Add Walmsley to that and I would agree. Tommy our MOM in my opinion, Turner tried really really hard (shoulder charge excepted), but sadly, except for Sia, there isn't a single experienced player worth a mention'"
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| Quote ="Dux"Funnily enough, lacking a prop and a half back.'"
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I like that, for some reason.
