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| brilliant game, cant believe we won, quite a few turned up aswell and cas fans created there own good atmosphere and there small chant about them being above leeds was funny there were a few calls that really confused me also did cas's kick go over when one flag when up and one down i couldnt tell from where i was sat, and meli having a bad game getting the winning try the jammy git
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| Bentham wasnt that bad, like good friday, you get some calls and you dont get others, thats the game
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| Quote ="BackrowSaint"If Bentham was as bad as is being suggested then I feel sorry for the Cas fans.'"
Like I've been saying, some weeks you get the calls and some wens you don't.
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| Quote ="BackrowSaint"If Bentham was as bad as is being suggested then I feel sorry for the Cas fans.'"
He wasn't that bad. Matterson is getting very boring now, it seems to be the referee's fault every time they lose.
Saying that 'they were by far the better side' is bordering on delusional. They took their chances, but if Saints had been patient the game would have been over by half time.
About time the RFL had a word with him.
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| Quote ="Saint Simon"Bentham wasnt that bad, like good friday, you get some calls and you dont get others, thats the game'"
Bentham was as bad as he usually is.
I thought his inability to stop the match while Huby was lying prone injured was a disgrace, frankly. Just as Silverdud's was on Friday when Wheeler was down. And that's aside from everything else.
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| Quote ="Smurf"He wasn't that bad. Matterson is getting very boring now, it seems to be the referee's fault every time they lose.
Saying that 'they were by far the better side' is bordering on delusional. They took their chances, but if Saints had been patient the game would have been over by half time.
About time the RFL had a word with him.'"
We've lost 3 times this season, he's blamed the ref once. Today. Again, justifiably. On Friday, asked about a couple of dubious calls, he fobbed them off and said it wasn't down to the ref for us losing. So do me a favour, jog on.
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| Quote ="SaintsFan"Bentham was as bad as he usually is.
I thought his inability to stop the match while Huby was lying prone injured was a disgrace, frankly. Just as Silverdud's was on Friday when Wheeler was down. And that's aside from everything else.'"
He did stop the game, not immeadiately, but then you'd have evry player trying it on to slow teams down
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| Quote ="Saint Simon"He did stop the game, not immeadiately, but then you'd have evry player trying it on to slow teams down'"
Oh yeah, he stopped it eventually. But we'd had a full set and failed to score and they were on their way back with the ball before he did so. It was terrible. Huby wasn't moving. He hadn't moved at all.
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| Quote ="Towns88":2ulpumgmWe've lost 3 times this season, he's blamed the ref once. Today. Again, justifiably. On Friday, asked about a couple of dubious calls, he fobbed them off and said it wasn't down to the ref for us losing. So do me a favour, jog on.'" kept putting petrol in their tank - that was the difference". To say that is justifiable is nonsense. Unprofessional sour grapes is probably a better explanation.
You're on the Saints board, so 'jog on' is a bit strong. But hey, losing seems to do that to people.
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| Quote ="SaintsFan"Oh yeah, he stopped it eventually. But we'd had a full set and failed to score and they were on their way back with the ball before he did so. It was terrible. Huby wasn't moving. He hadn't moved at all.'"
he cant watch everything, and huby had moved, he had his hand in the air to ask for help, if you know anything about triage, anyone asking for help, isnt that badly injured
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| Quote ="Smurf"This quote by Matterson is the most delusional of any coach I have seen this season - "We did not run out of gas, it was just that he [the referee kept putting petrol in their tank - that was the difference". To say that is justifiable is nonsense. Unprofessional sour grapes is probably a better explanation.
You're on the Saints board, so 'jog on' is a bit strong. But hey, losing seems to do that to people.'"
You can't read much then because the rant by Agar regarding James Child was worse.
As for delusional, if one sides gets the bounce of the ball, the referees calls, the decisions, yes, it does benefit the side that gets those decisions. So yes, it probably is justifiable to say that especially given some of the apparent 'decisions' given by said referee.
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| Quote ="SaintsFan"Oh yeah, he stopped it eventually. But we'd had a full set and failed to score and they were on their way back with the ball before he did so. It was terrible. Huby wasn't moving. He hadn't moved at all.'"
How bad was that! We even had a stretcher on the field and full medical team, and still play went on. Surely one of the idiots with flags is allowed to use their brain at some point. It's not about slowing the play down, it's about getting urgent help to someone in obvious pain.
On the dodgy calls, and evening out over the weeks. Fair enough when it happens. But you should still criticise a ref who cannot see a blatant knock on, who cannot count and doesn't bother signalling when he should have been. That is his job and he has influence the outcome of the game with bad call. Your second try, the Saints player drove the ball in, and the ball dropped straight to the floor from the collision. Knock on. You know, it, I know it, everyone in rugby league knows it. It wasn't a "did it go back?" or "did the ball get stripped?" it was a knock on. You scored directly from it while the whole ground was expecting the ref to blow up. that really is poor from the officials.
Anyway, as I said on our board before the game. Saint have some good youngsters and the future looks good for them. They're up to speed of SL and doing the stuff. Stick with them it's good for the game. On your win, congrat's. Gutting for us, but you should always expect it against Saints. See you in the grand final for our revenge!
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| Quote ="Saint Simon"he cant watch everything, and huby had moved, he had his hand in the air to ask for help, if you know anything about triage, anyone asking for help, isnt that badly injured'"
Exactly and as Pete said if a ref stopped a game everytime a player stayed down we'd start to see 'tactical injuries' (just like when your winning and an attacking player suddenly develops 'cramp' or a very sore leg lol)
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| Quote ="No1 Saint"Exactly and as Pete said if a ref stopped a game everytime a player stayed down we'd start to see 'tactical injuries' (just like when your winning and an attacking player suddenly develops 'cramp' or a very sore leg lol)'"
'twas me that said it! (same avatar though )
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| Quote ="Saint Simon"'twas me that said it! (same avatar though
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oops . Anyone who has played or watches amateur rugby will tell you it happens a fair bit because refs will normally stop a game if a player stays down anywhere near play
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| Play only has to be stopped for a head injury. If I am right in thinking that Huby picked up a knee injury then Bentham was right to let the game continue until the injured player was deemed to be in the way of play.
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| I, & several others by me, thought we got every 50/50 call today.
Best team definitely lost for mine but you can't knock our desire & determination to win the match in that last 10 minutes when more than just a few were completely out on their feet.
If I were a Cas fan I'd feel robbed but that's the way it goes sometimes.
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| Quote ="BackrowSaint"Play only has to be stopped for a head injury. If I am right in thinking that Huby picked up a knee injury then Bentham was right to let the game continue until the injured player was deemed to be in the way of play.'"
Correct. When wheeler went down on Friday the game carried on for about 3/4 mins leaving us down to 12 men.
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| Hopefully not all Saints fans are as biased as some.
I arent going to say Saints dont deserve the win, You guys went 100 metres in the last 2 minutes and managed to score. Well done.
All i will say, Is Castleford didnt deserve to lose, Albeit... Against a weakened Saints team. We were VERY good, Our goal line defence was superb, The best its been all season. And the only try we conceded on our goal line, for 74 minutes, Was from a blatant knock on. Which its absolutely astounding it was missed by the officials.
I havent seen the video, Apparently some say you maybe had 7 tackles late on, I didnt think so. But there was 1 occasion, With about 10 minutes to go, Where we were held on the 40 due to a late last tackle call from the idiot in the middle.
I thought Roby was ridiculous for you guys today, Made a lot of yards. And in the 2nd half. Was the only one causing us any problems, Our defence was good, Against your superior pack, And our kicking game was very good.
I thought you maybe got the 50/50 calls from the ref, But nobody could argue Cas' determination. We were there for every loose ball, And tbh. I think we deserved to win
Champion sides do what you did though, Just as Wigan did to you. A great game of RL
Just a shame there were a fair chunk of the crowd talking about the man in the middle again, And not the 34 players who served up another classic SL game.
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| Quote ="Dettoriman"Hopefully not all Saints fans are as biased as some.
I arent going to say Saints dont deserve the win, You guys went 100 metres in the last 2 minutes and managed to score. Well done.
All i will say, Is Castleford didnt deserve to lose, Albeit... Against a weakened Saints team. We were VERY good, Our goal line defence was superb, The best its been all season. And the only try we conceded on our goal line, for 74 minutes, Was from a blatant knock on. Which its absolutely astounding it was missed by the officials.
I havent seen the video, Apparently some say you maybe had 7 tackles late on, I didnt think so. But there was 1 occasion, With about 10 minutes to go, Where we were held on the 40 due to a late last tackle call from the idiot in the middle.
I thought Roby was ridiculous for you guys today, Made a lot of yards. And in the 2nd half. Was the only one causing us any problems, Our defence was good, Against your superior pack, And our kicking game was very good.
I thought you maybe got the 50/50 calls from the ref, But nobody could argue Cas' determination. We were there for every loose ball, And tbh. I think we deserved to win
Champion sides do what you did though, Just as Wigan did to you. A great game of RL
Just a shame there were a fair chunk of the crowd talking about the man in the middle again, And not the 34 players who served up another classic SL game.'"
agree with most of that, yes we got most of the 50/50 calls, but we got few of them on friday, its how it goes. on friday our defence was finished after 79 mins, yours was today
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| This isn't aimed at today's game but I often wonder with rugby as it Is now a days that castlefords face doesn't fit for top of league. Referees can lose you a game and as of the last 3 games we have got nothing. It does seem like sour grapes from me but it's just I think referees can't be that bad....surely? I like saints though so I don't want to start an argument over me moaning.
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| Just to echo what has been said really, I don't think Bentham had a bad game per se, simply that he got the two big decisions that cost us the game wrong. The try in the first half where Soliola appeared to drop the ball and pick it up again (which, when Rangi Chase did in the second half was classed as a knock on) was crucial, as was the decision to award the scrum to you guys when Shenton threw the ball forward inside your own half. However, as dissappointing as it was, it was nice to chat to some gracious Saints fans on the way out.
Full credit to your young guys for hanging in there anyway, and all the best for the rest of the season.
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| Quote ="No1 Saint"Anyone who has played or watches amateur rugby will tell you it happens a fair bit '"
Except this isn't amateur rugby and no way did Bentman know whether Huby had a head injury or not. The guy didn't move. He was flat out. That looked like a head injury from the East Stand. We thought he had clashed heads. It was totally wrong not to stop play just as it was when Silverdud didn't stop play for Wheeler on Friday. Why should a team have to defend with 12 men other than as a punishment? Poor form, that was.
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| Quote ="Dettoriman"All i will say, Is Castleford didnt deserve to lose, '"
I agree. We got lucky at the end. Meli had been a lazy butt all game and then decides to deprive me of some abusive posts on here by scoring the match leveller. We know how you feel. We were the same on Friday. We were all over Wigan until Hoffman took out Wheeler. We still came back and were in the lead in the second half, but we lost. It's a real sickener and it took me all weekend to get over it. You were the better team today. But we got lucky at the end there and I can't give you those two points back. Sorry. We need them!
Best of luck for the rest of the season though.
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| Its alright, Its our own faults. We probably should have won at Bradford
And definitely threw away now 3 games on the trot. Cas should have a 100% record. Which, Is absurd.
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