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| Quote ="SaintsFan"And how do YOU know that it wasn't Royce Simmons who advised the board about Kyle? How do you know whether Royce had a choice in playing Kyle Eastmond? After all, he too is a paid employee of the Board. You know nothing about the situation so stop talking out of your backside.
I don't remember him saying that. He said he'd been playing at centre recently. Wheeler was playing in the centres in the off season. He said that Lomax and Gaskell had played as halfback partners in the under 18s and Lomax reckoned they could put together some moves from back then, which clearly they did. Good on Lomax for thinking and being intelligent, and actually caring. But that team would not have gone out in that order had Royce Simmons not wanted it that way. He could just as easily have dropped Gaskell and put Lomax and Wheeler together, for example. But he believed in Gaskell, and said so publically, and was he right or was he right? All Gaskell needed was a functioning halfback partner and look how many mistakes he made! None!
He has to provide cover for the backs. With Wello playing on injections and our young guns' tendencies towards injury, he needed cover on the bench. Foster can cover fullback, and it's my theory that he was there for that purpose, playing the final ten to keep him match fit. Wheeler will now possibly take on that role, playing for some of the match in place of Gaskell. I might be wrong, but that would be my guess.'"
You seam to be looking for an arguement. I'll move on.
As for talking out of backsides, If I could do that I would not be here. I could earn Millions on the internet doing that.
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| Quote ="bewareshadows"You seam to be looking for an arguement. I'll move on.
As for talking out of backsides, If I could do that I would not be here. I could earn Millions on the internet doing that.
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probably need to brush up on your spelling first maybe ?
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| Quote ="sanjunien"probably need to brush up on your spelling first maybe ?
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| Coming from a Wigan fan....
Congratulations! You not only beat the 13 men on the pitch against you but the refereeing officials too. It would seem nothing has changed this season from the last three in that Leeds are actively assisted by crooked decision making and bad calls.
Most teams fans gripe about a call here or there but they even up over a game or a season. Not in Leeds' case, they always have a following wind!
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| Quote ="Barnesy"Coming from a Wigan fan....
Congratulations! You not only beat the 13 men on the pitch against you but the refereeing officials too. It would seem nothing has changed this season from the last three in that Leeds are actively assisted by crooked decision making and bad calls.
Most teams fans gripe about a call here or there but they even up over a game or a season. Not in Leeds' case, they always have a following wind!'"
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| Great showing from the young Saints. I thought Foster was magnificent. Definitely the best goalkicker in the league.
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| Quote ="bewareshadows"I'm only talking out of my booty not writing with it. Jes if I could do that too the sky would be the limit. In'it'"
the mind boggles !!!
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| Quote ="sanjunien"the mind boggles !!!
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Not in my case, I'm far too literal. Or maybe that's lateral???????
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| Royce Simmons has had some stick so far this season and rightly so for some things. The team has looked unmotivated, short of ideas and being honest looked pretty poor.
But tonight he deserves a huge pat on the back, he's got a reaction out of the players, got them working for each other which I didn't think possible after last weeks showing.
Well done royce and the lads!
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| Quote ="Nikaed"Great showing from the young Saints. I thought Foster was magnificent. Definitely the best goalkicker in the league.'"
Really? What's his kicking like in the big games, gf's cc finals wcc internationals?
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| Quote ="St pete"Royce Simmons has had some stick so far this season and rightly so for some things. The team has looked unmotivated, short of ideas and being honest looked pretty poor.
But tonight he deserves a huge pat on the back, he's got a reaction out of the players, got them working for each other which I didn't think possible after last weeks showing.
Well done royce and the lads!'"
Agreed. I'm one of the guys who were really worried. Hopefully we've turned a corner.
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| Quote =".Alice."I think we'll do them.'"
Told you!
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| Quote ="sgtwilko":eeh44b3oReally? What's his kicking like in the big games, gf's cc finals wcc internationals?'"
His kicking has been very good every time I've seen him play. Really rate him!
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| Quote =".Alice."Told you!'"
thank you Mystic Meg - keep up the good work
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| Quote ="St pete"Royce Simmons has had some stick so far this season and rightly so for some things. The team has looked unmotivated, short of ideas and being honest looked pretty poor.
But tonight he deserves a huge pat on the back, he's got a reaction out of the players, got them working for each other which I didn't think possible after last weeks showing.
Well done royce and the lads!'"
is it also a case of removing bad apples from the squad?
not disputing what you have said,just offering another POV.
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| Quote ="FearTheVee"How people are arriving at the conclusion that Leeds are going to wipe the floor with us is beyond me. All this talk of 30+ point margins is absolute nonsense - you can quote me on that on Sunday.'"
Hopefully that performance has quietened some of the more ridiculous knee jerkers amongst our support.
Also, Paul Wello take a bow. Some of the ill informed abuse he gets on here is a disgrace at times for a player who would die for this club.
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| You will look back at the end of the season and say "Our season started at Headingley on Saturday 19th March 2011"
The players now know where they stand and Eastmond is now history as you dont need him - you have got someone who wants to play for you and wear the seven shirt with pride.
The way both the players and fans celebrated after the final whistle was as if you had won the Grand Final!
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| Quote ="FearTheVee"Hopefully that performance has quietened some of the more ridiculous knee jerkers amongst our support.
Also, Paul Wello take a bow. Some of the ill informed abuse he gets on here is a disgrace at times for a player who would die for this club.'"
Agreed, I love Wello! I don't understand all the criticism he gets. Safe as houses.
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| I also agree about wello, amazing how quickly fans change their minds on this forum.
I remember a time everyone was on the back of cunningham after his serious injury years ago, saying he was finished etc..
NEVER WRITE OFF THE SAINTS!
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| Quote ="Poyser11"Agreed, I love Wello! I don't understand all the criticism he gets. Safe as houses.'"
He offers little to nothing now with ball in hand, how many times last night did he beat the first man or make 10yds on a kick return? His positional sense no longer covers his lack of pace.
What no one has ever questioned is his commitment.
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| Quote ="Billinge_Lump"He offers little to nothing now with ball in hand, how many times last night did he beat the first man or make 10yds on a kick return? His positional sense no longer covers his lack of pace.
What no one has ever questioned is his commitment.'"
Would that try saving tackle on Ryan Hall not be included as an example of what he still has to offer? And then compare him under the high ball to how Amos Roberts was on Friday! And for someone that's meant to be so slow, he always seems to be keeping up with breaks to offer support to the player with ball in hand.
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| Quote ="St pete"Royce Simmons has had some stick so far this season and rightly so for some things. The team has looked unmotivated, short of ideas and being honest looked pretty poor.
But tonight he deserves a huge pat on the back, he's got a reaction out of the players, got them working for each other which I didn't think possible after last weeks showing.
Well done royce and the lads!'"
The problem so far this season has not been Royce Simmons. It's been Kyle Eastmond, and last night proved it.
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| Quote ="Billinge_Lump"He offers little to nothing now with ball in hand, how many times last night did he beat the first man or make 10yds on a kick return? His positional sense no longer covers his lack of pace.
What no one has ever questioned is his commitment.'"
Brent Webb is fast, but I wouldn't swap Wello for 2 Webbs.
Wellens offered enough to score a clinching try and save several others last night, added to being faultless under some good kicks. He was magnificent IMO.
Pace isn't everything. Amos Roberts has pace but did his best to give the game to Hudds on Fri, same with Webb. Wellens is a cracking full back and gets more stick than he deserves.
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| Quote ="Saint Rabban"The problem so far this season has not been Royce Simmons. It's been Kyle Eastmond, and last night proved it.'"
I wouldn't go that far as to blame eastmond for everthing this but he's obviously played a big part in are terrible start.
He can't be blamed for our very poor defence, lack off effort and so on.
Let's hope last night put some confidence back in to the squad we kick on now and go on a good unbeaten run.
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