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| whats with the mythical 30 barrier? as long as the players are doing the job they are being paid for, what does it matter how old they are?
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| Quote ="Rogues Gallery"Oh and Nick Fozzard, Keiron Cunningham, Matt Gidley, Francis Meli, Tony Puletua and Maurie Fa'asavalu who will all be over 30 before the start of the 2010 season.'"
And would all walk into the current Wigan side.
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| Quote ="Dux"And would all walk into the current Wigan side.'"
You mean walk helped by the aid of a zimmer frame, into the current wigoon side.
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| i'm not sure, that paul anderson was shocking past 30, why we ever signed him is a mystery to me
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| the man who won this seasons man of steel was over 30 too brett hodgson!
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loosely translated "i tried to flog him to sale but they're broke"
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loosely translated "i tried to flog him to sale but they're broke"
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| Quote ="Saint Simon"i'm not sure, that paul anderson was shocking past 30, why we ever signed him is a mystery to me
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and Kevin Ward was cr@p too
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I hope Martin Offiah swallows his tongue in his sleep. I absolutely detest the bloke. He knows zip about rugby league, absolutely zip (nothing). He cant string two words together when his on the Sky panel.
Good player, probably a decent agent but he knows nothing about the game and his personality is that of a wan*er!
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I hope Martin Offiah swallows his tongue in his sleep. I absolutely detest the bloke. He knows zip about rugby league, absolutely zip (nothing). He cant string two words together when his on the Sky panel.
Good player, probably a decent agent but he knows nothing about the game and his personality is that of a wan*er!
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| Just goes to prove that all the talk of a union switch was Offiah trying to talk up his fee. No offer on the table from Sale at any stage, yet he attempted to convince everyone it was practically a done deal.
I hope RL goes the way of football and publishes details of the payments made to agents.
Martin Offiah is quckly becoming the Don King of RL. Everyone gets the feeling that you can't believe a word that comes out of his mouth, yet these sportspeople continue to employ him.
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| At one point in that statement Offiah's saying that in 12-18 months Eastmond will sign a long term deal with Saints, that's what he wants.
Further in the article Offiah talk about the "right" age to go to union.
So Eastmond wants to sign a long term deal with Saints, Offiah still wants to talk about Union.
Also he always brings up Jason Robinson saying comparisons are made, oh yeah, by whom?
JR was released by Leeds who didn't think he'd make it as a 7. Wigan signed him because they thought he would. Leeds got it right!
As a 7 Jason Robinson was hopeless. Wigan put him on the wing to see how he'd go with his pace and elusive running. Wigan then got it right!
Eastmond is not hopeless at 7, quite the opposite as he's just been given his International cap in that positon. However, long term if 7 turns out not to be his best position will Saints want rid? No chance!
I do hope Eastmond signs a long term deal, if he does want to stay perhaps a change of agent should be considered.
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| Quote ="Father Ted"Also he always brings up Jason Robinson saying comparisons are made, oh yeah, by whom?
JR was released by Leeds who didn't think he'd make it as a 7. Wigan signed him because they thought he would. Leeds got it right!
As a 7 Jason Robinson was hopeless. Wigan put him on the wing to see how he'd go with his pace and elusive running. Wigan then got it right!'"
I thought Jason Robinson played for Hunslet first as that was his local club and turned down the chance to sign for Leeds before leaving Hunslet for Wigan.
Could be wrong though as yourself as a Wigan fan is bound to be right.
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| I was really happy to hear Kyle had signed a 2 year deal with Saints, IMO Eastmond and Tomkins will be the best half-back partnership England have had in a long while.
Offiah is a total plank. I just hope Eastmond has a bit of bottle and tells him where to shove it if he tries to tout him to Union come 2012. (If he wants to stay in RL that is)
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| Quote ="The Chief"Just goes to prove that all the talk of a union switch was Offiah trying to talk up his fee. No offer on the table from Sale at any stage, yet he attempted to convince everyone it was practically a done deal.
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Did he or did fans talk themselves into it? I don't recall seeing a great deal from Offiah about Sale bar one or two comments early on.
Oh and wasn't Robinson a bit older than 25 when he switched?
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| Quote ="Billinge_Lump"Did he or did fans talk themselves into it? I don't recall seeing a great deal from Offiah about Sale bar one or two comments early on.
Oh and wasn't Robinson a bit older than 25 when he switched?'"
Only a bit, he was 26 when played first games for Sale.
Which i find surprising as i always thought he defected in his late 20's
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| Quote ="The Chair Maker"Only a bit, he was 26 when played first games for Sale.
Which i find surprising as i always thought he defected in his late 20's'"
I think that is assumed because he was a star so young, possibly anyway
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| Another three for Offiah
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| Quote ="Rogues Gallery"Another three for Offiah
[urlhttp://www.league.quins.co.uk/academy/10600.php?includeref=9265&refreshcache=1&vote=2820&PHPSESSID=2b81d4b2efeb80a4f678fed8a40cc5fe[/url'"
Thats great to see. Good on old Charriots. Great to see some genuine Londoners playing the game.
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| Quote ="Saddened!"Thats great to see. Good on old Charriots. Great to see some genuine Londoners playing the game.'"
When I look at that photo, I want to smack the smarmy smirking man at the front with a baseball bat.
If Shaun Edwards was next to him nodding, atomic bomb time - regardless of the promising leaguies behind him. I offer my condolences to their families, but it was a necessary evil.
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| Quote ="FearTheVee"When I look at that photo, I want to smack the smarmy smirking man at the front with a baseball bat.
If Shaun Edwards was next to him nodding, atomic bomb time - regardless of the promising leaguies behind him. I offer my condolences to their families, but it was a necessary evil.'"
And your usually one of the more rational Saints supporters.
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| Quote ="Rogues Gallery"Another three for Offiah
[urlhttp://www.league.quins.co.uk/academy/10600.php?includeref=9265&refreshcache=1&vote=2820&PHPSESSID=2b81d4b2efeb80a4f678fed8a40cc5fe[/url'"
What the hell is that round Offiah's neck? Has he stolen a 3 year old goth's tie?
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| It seems like the deal only really suits the player and not the club. I suppose there is a possibility that he won't live up to hype, but there is no evidence of that. He is always dangerous, and that always worries defences.
Two years means he can walk away to the highest bidder and Saints get zip. It looks like Offiah is looking at squeezing as much out of rugby league until he gets to the bankable age of 25 and then squeezing the rugby union, where they will probably just shove him out on the wing, as a union scrum half is a much different animal to a league one. It keeps him at your place, but I'm not sure how good it is for your club in the long run, because if he does prove himself, and that seems the likeliest outcome, the contract in two years time will be a much bigger one. Or you will lose him.
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| Quote ="Slugger McBatt"If he does prove himself, and that seems the likeliest outcome, the contract in two years time will be a much bigger one. Or you will lose him.'"
If he proves himself, Saints will be happy to give him a bigger contract.
I might be in the minority here, but to have tied Eastmond to a 4/5 year deal, we would have needed to stump up SERIOUS cash, so I'm happy to see how he goes over the next 2 years rather than panic paying him a fortune after a handful of games at 7.
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| The way I see it is that Eastmond is contracted for another two years.
Next year we'll see if he can do what we need of a 7, the length of his contract will avoid anyone else sniffing round him and getinng him unsettled during this period. If he's the half back we all hope he is, then at the end of next season they'll sit down and sort out a realistic long term contract to replace his current one.
If he's not all he's cracked up to be, then we're not tied to a long and expensive contract.
Works both ways, but I wouldn't be overly concerned about the length being so he can jump ship as soon as possible.
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| Offside's right - the whole point of this deal will be to get Eastmond to sign a new one at the end of next year if things are looking good. You do not want to be waiting to the end of a contract to work out a new one with your best players. If you do, you'll forever be in bidding wars (real or talked up by the likes of Offiah).
IMO 2 years is about right as well - Eastmond looks promising but it's hard to see what his best position long-term may be. TBH from what (little) I've seen he's a good runner but seems to be lacking in some of the basic halfback skills (something sadly true about most young British players unfortunately). Doesn't mean he can't make it - Rob Burrow really doesn't have a good passing game for example - but I for one wouldn't be betting a 5-year deal on him as a scrum half right now.
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