I'm still of the opinion that playing Lance as an impact hooker is where we'll get the most out of him, with Robes moving to LF whilst he's on the pitch (or even getting a well earned rest, heaven forbid!)

I'd go with that(I like Lomax at #7 - I think he can do a great job in the right partnership), but I'd still change out the fullback.
Whether it be going with Makinson for pace or someone like Wheeler for craft and evasion.

I'm not convinced we need to replace Wello at FB, he has lots of good points. We just need to tweak out predictable backs moves to involve him at an earlier point rather than at the strike end.

If we did bite the bullet and replace him, my only concern would be at right centre, where a decision would have to be made, a a choice between Clough/Magennis on the bench:

Makinson
Gardner
Shenton/Jones/Flannery/Wellens (my personal preference would be Jones, then Shenton)
Wheeler
Meli
Gaskell
Lomax
Perry
Roby
Laffranchi
Soliola
Flanagan
Wilkin

LMS
TP
Clough/Magennis
Lance

Signing Lance Hohaia was a huge mistake. I just didn't see the sense in it. It reminds me of when we signed Darrell Trindall.

I'll say it one last time cos I'm bleating on. If we don't sign a scrum half for next season then it'll be the same again.

Our main failing in tge halves is a lack of kicking game, hohaias kicking is poor, wellens is non existent. Moving him to the halfs makes the kicking problem worse, not better.

You may be right.

If you go back to the Leeds game. Have a look at the try Wheeler scores. At that point, Roby had gone of, Lance was at hooker and Wilkin (now at #6) throws the killer pass. It was slick as an oil spill.
Why can't we recreate that sort of thing more often?
Not a hard choice for me. I reckon Clough's been one of our best performers over that last few weeks and I'm yet to see a game wheree Magennis has impressed me as a physical presence in the pack.

That's what Simmons was doing with Scott Moore and Robes last year wasn't he?

This post is full of common sense.

Seriously? Wello is really only useful coming into the line when we're about ten to twenty metres out because the opposition knows that they can focus on his outside runners due to the lack of pace he has. Compare him to somebody with pace and look how indecisive a defence is when faced with the threat of a full back who, if you give them a yard, is gone through the gap. A fast, attacking full back has been a necessity at the very top of RL since Anthony Minichiello won the golden boot which was over seven years ago. I don't know of any NRL teams which could operate without one now. Seven years ago that wasn't a major issue because those other qualities were strong enough to compensate for any pace differentials, now they are not.

Spot on

Sean Long was a 6 when we bought him but we converted him to play 7 when Goulding left and Tommy Martyn came back from one of his many injuries. As you say he benefited from having an experienced half with him and also from having KC at 9 and players like Scully and Karl Hammond in the team.

Lomax needs coaching and he could do with a half with experience to partner him not some half d wannabe halfback who is better suited to fullback or hooker.

I know a club where Jon could play and get all the things that you you list

Yeah but he's about 50 years too young!!!!!

Mmmm don't be so sure my Shell Suited friend.
Here are 12 of our players (& their ages) that played for us at Wakey today.

Chris Riley Date of Birth: 22.02.1988 = 23
Ryan Atkins Date of Birth: 07.10.1985 = 26
Matty Blythe Date of Birth: 20.11.1988 = 23
Rhys Williams Date of Birth: 08.12.1989 = 22
Stefan Ratchford Date of Birth: 19.07.1988 = 23
Gareth O'Brien Date of Birth: 31.10.1991 = 20
Chris Hill Date of Birth: 03.11.1987 = 24
Tyrone McCarthy Date of Birth: 21.04.1988 = 24
Ben Harrison Date of Birth 24.02.1988 = 24
Mike Cooper Date of Birth: 15.09.1988 = 23
Simon Grix Date of Birth: 28.09.1985 = 26
Ben Currie Date of Birth: 15.07.1994 = 17

These 12 players who are all in are 1st team squad and played today.
They have a combined age a little under 23.
I am sure you would agree they are far from over the hill.

Oh and by the way these 12 helped us to a 42 - 12 victory.
Just Saying

I'm sure those players didn't have a combined age of a little under 23.....

Do the Math my Saintly one.

Of those players i get 22.91

so yes they do i'm afraid.

even if you add the other 5 players that played today

Hodgson 34
Westwood 30
Higham 31
Carvell 31
Wood 30

it's still average age of 25.35

Combined??? Do the math......

that is combined, do you know how to work out averages?

Yes. Hence I know the difference between COMBINED and AVERAGE. There is a difference you know, i will explain if you really need me to.

1+1+1 combined is 3. 1+1+1 averaged is 1.

That is all.

Okay Thanks

Apologies, i thought you were implying i hadn't combined the Fatbelly stat with my own.

431 btw

Its great to have so many young players and should be applauded.

Being really picky, Riley, based on your DOB is 24 so the average will be slightly over 23

Warrington have a good mix of young players and senior experienced players who are the real stars. Yes they've spent money to buy alot of the young talent, but they've bought well, and developed some of their own