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| Our derby is Widnes, regardless of where they currently are. The saints/wigan games are still derbies, but widnes is our proper derby. It's about as pointless as asking a hull fc fan "which is your derby kr or leeds?"
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| Quote ="Rogues Gallery"From a Saints pov.
Last three Wigan games won 1, lost 1, drawn 1
Last three Wire games hmmmmmmm'"
from the way saints just rolled over and let wigan paste them at edinburgh seemed to me like wigan derbys mean nothing anymore saints never play like that against warrington fair enough you always win but every game for the last few years could have easily gone either way and has been the perfect game for a neutral to watch especially at warrington where both sets of fans actually sing so the atmosphere is immense we are one of the only clubs who actually sing at home for big games and dont try and say that you saints fans sing at home because you clearly dont but your away support is pretty good
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| wire's derby is vs widnes
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| Quote ="wiretilidie08"from the way saints just rolled over and let wigan paste them at edinburgh seemed to me like wigan derbys mean nothing anymore saints never play like that against warrington fair enough you always win but every game for the last few years could have easily gone either way and has been the perfect game for a neutral to watch especially at warrington where both sets of fans actually sing so the atmosphere is immense we are one of the only clubs who actually sing at home for big games and dont try and say that you saints fans sing at home because you clearly dont but your away support is pretty good'"
Did you breathe anywhere there?
I enjoy the Wire derbies the best. Wigan is probably the bigger derby because of all the years of tradition backing it up but Wire for the last few years has had much more excitement to it. We always seem to end up winning from a position of looking like we are going to lose by a mile and the hoodoo thing certainly gives the match a spice that just doesn't exist in Wigan games anymore IMO.
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| Bring on the wigoon....bring on the wigoon....bring on the wigooon
Wire away days are up there for best day logn sesh though with fantastic result to carry on the fun around the shocking town
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| Warrington fans kid themselves, they think that Stains and Wigan really hate them, which is quite amusing. As for Widnes being their derby, probably isn't anymore due to our downfall and Lower league status, but still we play leigh now which is still fairly entertaining. But no St Helens fan in the right mind wants to beat Wires more than goons. Battle of Billinge Hill is the best derby in the game by a country mile
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| Saints - Wire is a better game these days, but that doesnt mean its the biggest derby.
I look forward to them more than the Wigan derby.
Out of all the teams, I hate losing to, and want to win againt Leeds more than anyone.
The Wigan games lost more and more over the years as the team lost all the great players they used to have.
There is still that hatred between the two teams though.
Saints - Wire have been amongst the best games of the season in the last couple of years without doubt.
The Hull derby is surely the biggest derby now?
Bradford and Wigan are just not the forces they once was.
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| Quote ="saintcj"Saints - Wire is a better game these days, but that doesnt mean its the biggest derby.
I look forward to them more than the Wigan derby.
Out of all the teams, I hate losing to, and want to win againt Leeds more than anyone.
The Wigan games lost more and more over the years as the team lost all the great players they used to have.
There is still that hatred between the two teams though.
Saints - Wire have been amongst the best games of the season in the last couple of years without doubt.
The Hull derby is surely the biggest derby now?
Bradford and Wigan are just not the forces they once was.'"
Just shows how poor Saints are then, when both Wigan and Bradford have beaten them this season.
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| Quote ="Rogues Gallery"Just shows how poor Saints are then, when both Wigan and Bradford have beaten them this season.'"
Top of the league. Again.
12 points clear of Wigan.
19 points clear of Bradford.
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| Quote ="FearTheVee"Top of the league. Again.
12 points clear of Wigan.
19 points clear of Bradford.'"
What have I been saying about the standard of Superleague this season?
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| Quote ="Rogues Gallery"What have I been saying about the standard of Superleague this season?'"
Regardless of overall standard, the league shows Wigan and Bulls aren't in our class. They haven't been for years.
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| Quote ="FearTheVee"Regardless of overall standard, the league shows Wigan and Bulls aren't in our class. They haven't been for years.'"
nor will they be in our class for years n years... and were a team in decline AND transition
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| anyone got the quote chairman Mo made about Wire? - I think it sums them up perfectly
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| Quote ="Rogues Gallery"Just shows how poor Saints are then, when both Wigan and Bradford have beaten them this season.'"
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| as for derbies isnt wigans leigh but instead would rather make one up with stains the only derby in super league is hull v rovers cas v wakey
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| Wire fans really do think that saints and Wigan care about the game against them.
They beat us once a season but you will see eventually how much they cream themselves when they win.
I would love to see Widnes back in super league to create that extra derby, I feel sorry for the wire fans travelling to the magic weekend and not getting a big game like most other teams do.
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| Quote ="lets play"as for derbies isnt wigans leigh but instead would rather make one up with stains'"
No, its a local match but it has never been regarded as the main local rivalry.
I read somewhere that the term Derby dates back to the English civil war when a group of Roundheads raised in the area which would later become St Helens fought a Royalist force defending Wigan led by Lord Derby at the Battle of Wigan Lane.
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| Quote ="odemwingie"Wire fans really do think that saints and Wigan care about the game against them.
So you don't care if you win or lose against Wire? - Course you don't. Easy to say that you don't care nowadays when results against us are far less of a foregone conclusion isn't it.
They beat us once a season but you will see eventually how much they cream themselves when they win.
And you won't cream yourselves when you eventually manage to beat us at the HJ? - Course you won't.
I would love to see Widnes back in super league to create that extra derby, I feel sorry for the wire fans travelling to the magic weekend and not getting a big game like most other teams do.'" Quote '"
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| batley v dewsbury
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| Quote ="odemwingie"Wire fans really do think that saints and Wigan care about the game against them.
They beat us once a season but you will see eventually how much they cream themselves when they win.
I would love to see Widnes back in super league to create that extra derby, I feel sorry for the wire fans travelling to the magic weekend and not getting a big game like most other teams do.'"
hmmm thats funny because for next years magic weekend it is warrington v saints what a game that should be
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| When Warrington play Wigan. I want Warrington to win.
Ergo, I hate Wigan more, therefore they are the biggest derby, IMO.
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| Whitehaven v Workington when in the same league 'massive'
leeds bradford is a big one
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| Surely the Catalans v Quins derby is the biggest.
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| Quote ="odemwingie"Surely the Catalans v Quins derby is the biggest.'"
Quins v Skolars
HTH
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| When comparing the two games it is not even close.
Wire do not matter in comparison.
Wigan is [ithe[/imost important league games of any season for me
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