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| Quote ="Fantastic Mr Cat"its been said he's not as vocal as he could be,'"
Should fit in well at Saints then. Nobody is vocal.
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| Quote ="jaybs"I see it as a very strange decision personally, what message does it send out to younger players in any of the clubs junior sides Under 16's & Academy? I agree very much with what Harry Pinner says!'"
It says we dont intend on players who arnt ready in the first team. You think many 16 year olds could play at scrum half in the first team for half a season? Scott Moore was the last of that age to get first team Rugby iirc but he was a bit of a freak physically.
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| Quote ="SaintsFan"Don't forget that the guy is only 21 and has had less experience at first team level than Gaskell and probably Wheeler in the halfback role given his injury record! We've not loaned a fully fledged halfback here. He is going to need help and support from our senior players. I would imagine that Brown will be asking the minimum from him and he's going to be under pressure to perform given our league standing and inability to win matches.
I'm feeling sorry for the guy really!'"
That dead horse you constantly flog HAS GONE TO SALFORD FOREVER !!! get over it .
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| Quote ="Offside Monkey"To be honest, one of the things we lack is vocal leaders. There's people like Robes & Sia who lead by example, but since Graham left, there's no one barking at the troops.
Wellens, I guess, can be vocal, but he look's more like a bit of a whinger; waving his arms at the ref.'"
Wello annoys the hell out of me when he does his windmill impression and starts moaning at the ref , it's not being a role model, it's not achieving anything positive and it's not leadership
Scrum halves should always be noisy bossy sods ala Longy,Goulding and Murphy hopefully Walsh will be
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| Quote ="Billinge_Lump"A month gives us time to bring Roby and Lomax back, we know recruitment in the halves has been poor, the signing of Hohaia hasn't worked and probably won't. Have we been hamstrung by finances whilst the stadium was being built? Possibly, we seem to have lost a lot of money in the period at Widnes, it'll be interesting to see what happens going forward now that situation has finished.'"
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| Quote ="No1 Saint"Scott Moore was the last of that age to get first team Rugby iirc but he was a bit of a freak physically.'"
And mentally by all accounts...
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| I don't know much about o'brien or Walsh, but there are mumblings that saints are trying to get o'brien permanently. Could they make a half back combo? Aren't they both 7s? And both similar in having a kicking game? I guess whatever happens will be infinitely better than our current situation and at least give us cover for rhe inevitable injuries.
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| Saints with a kicking game, wash your mouth out
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| Quote ="Legman"Saints with a kicking game, wash your mouth out'"
Don't worry, our coaches will force then to play with their boots on the wrong feet as a developmebt opportunity. They will soon lose all their ability when try pull on the red vee. Bugger, I'm turning into saddened.
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| Quote ="SomersetSaint"I don't know much about o'brien or Walsh, but there are mumblings that saints are trying to get o'brien permanently. Could they make a half back combo? Aren't they both 7s? And both similar in having a kicking game? I guess whatever happens will be infinitely better than our current situation and at least give us cover for rhe inevitable injuries.'"
O'brien will be a 6 his kicking is good and he is getting there with his organizing etc but still young and a lot to learn
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| Quote ="wolfinwidnes"O'brien will be a 6 his kicking is good and he is getting there with his organizing etc but still young and a lot to learn'"
So why wasn't he given more game time when Briers was out?
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| Quote ="Rogues Gallery"So why wasn't he given more game time when Briers was out?'"
Because Ratch is a perfect replacement. We need to send Gareth out to lesser clubs with a view to helping both them and him to develop .
P.S What's it got to do with you anyway?
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| Wigan had good half backs coming through we were told, so good they went out and signed Smith and Green.
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| Lesser team with 4 grand final wins to our name , how many have you won ,
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| Quote ="barry1982"Lesser team with 4 grand final wins to our name , how many have you won ,'"
Give me a hand to reel this one in fellas. Chill Barry. Did you not notice the little wink face after it? Truth be told, I knew I'd catch someone. Gareth is a top lad and a very clever player. People raved about slow motion Howarth when he first started playing for you. Wait until you see Gareth in action. Good hands, speed and an intelligent kicking game.
P.S Good memory Barry. It's been a while
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| Quote ="Rogues Gallery"So why wasn't he given more game time when Briers was out?'"
I find this comment laughable from a supporter of a club that constantly fills us with how good wigans youth is, yet they pay money for two halfbacks.
How's that work ?
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| Yep but I have that memory , the one your missing
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| That was far too easy. Not even trying on that fishing expedition.
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| Quote ="Warrington Wolf". People raved about slow motion Howarth when he first started playing for you. '"
Really ? Who?
I'm quite happy about signing O'Brien , if he looks OK hopefully we can make it a permanent deal as I can't see him getting a shot in front of myler and ratchford. You could have Ashe as part of the deal
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| Quote ="St pete"I find this comment laughable from a supporter of a club that constantly fills us with how good wigans youth is, yet they pay money for two halfbacks.
How's that work ?'"
I don't know what Wigan have to do with a question about why O'Brien wasn't used in the absence of Briers.
But if you want to talk about Wigans academy products, I'll give you an honest answer.
We have never had less than ten in the team this season. In the past three weeks that has been fourteen, thirteen and thirteen.
Sam Powell broke his leg last year so couldn't be given a run when Tommy L was injured.
Hampshire and Williams (The current England U18 half backs) are still young and developing physically and will get some game time this season, Williams has already played twice.
I the U19's Hampshire has scored twenty four tries and kicked ninety goals from his fifteen games this season.
Williams has scored ten tries from ten games. They can both still play another year in that comp, unless they change the age groups.
Their time will come.
When Smith and Green have been out Wigan have used Williams and Powell, which brings me back on topic. I wonder why Wire didn't use O'Brien more when Briers was out for such a lengthy period. Maybe he was injured, which is why I asked the question.
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| Quote ="Rogues Gallery"
When Smith and Green have been out Wigan have used Williams and Powell,.'"
And O'Loughlin who has been used a fair bit at 6 ... always interesting how you choose to leave out information to suit yourself , ever thought of a job in politics?
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| Quote ="No1 Saint"And O'Loughlin who has been used a fair bit at 6 ... always interesting how you choose to leave out information to suit yourself , ever thought of a job in politics?'"
He should get together with Saintsfan. They would make a lovely couple.
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| Quote ="No1 Saint"And O'Loughlin who has been used a fair bit at 6 ... always interesting how you choose to leave out information to suit yourself , ever thought of a job in politics?'"
Lockers hasn't played a single game at 6 this year
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