I think he's doing the correct thing with Walsh. It was a horrific injury and couid easily ended a plsyers career. I wouodnt start him next week either and look to the wakey game for his first start.

It's not just physically coming back from a injury like that but it's 90% in your head. I've just come back from a broken ankle (nowhere near as serious as walsh) and I was out 4 month and it's constantly on my mind at the moment everytime I tackle, step off my right and even when stood in the tackle so I can imagine what walsh must be feeling.

Our defence has saved us numerous times this season.

Last night it all came apart and the whole performance was similar to the Warrington home game from last season. Some amateur errors at times and defensively the effort just wasn't good enough. Leeds were too quick around the ruck and destroyed us on the edges. Full credit to them they did a job on us but we're much better than that. The 1st half was embarrassing and not befitting of this club.

We have been very suspect outwide all year but we've scrambled well and got back. Tommy made many cover tackles this year from clean breaks but we are little busted and tired so we ain't getting back how we was.

The edge defence is nothing short of woeful with basic one on one tackles being missed and poor decison making is costing us.

I think I would start him next week, we,ve had quite a few games lately in the first 10 mins were we have been very sloppy in our attacking play, given the ball away in attack to the opposition and we,ve gone 6 points down and chasing the game.
Walsh would calm us down and give us better quality execution, once we control the game then Walsh could be benched for a spell.
I can understand KC way of thinking of keeping Wilkin at 7 at the start of an energized game, but yesterday was far too long for Walsh introduction, the game had gone especially with a high quality side like Leeds.

I said the same last night BUT the injuries to Greenwood & Vea, along with Wilkin playing in the halves & Josh Jones covering centre last night, are the missing mobile pack players. This means we effectively are playing with 6 props in the 17. You can get away with that against some teams but not against a Leeds team on a fast track.

Percival back at centre & a Walsh / Burns half back pairing will help that situation by freeing up Wilkin & Jones to return to the middle.

I'd like to go back to those innocent, hazy days were we weren't giving away 3 tries a game due to a kick being charged down or throwing a soft interception. Glory days.

I think I'd like to go back to those glory days when handing over the ball in broken play on the opposition's ten metre-line didn't result in a certain try, because we had people fast enough to chase down the runner.

If you look at the tries Hull KR scored against us, and last night Leeds, what you see is a team so lacking in speed that not only could we not catch the man who made the break, but we couldn't even close the gap over nearly a full pitch length, allowing the tries to go under the posts for easy kicks.

We have no speed, which means that if an opponent makes a break, even on their own tryline, after we give away the ball (ie, our fullback is in the attacking line rather than positioned deep), then they are going to score, because we have nobody with the pace to cover back. Fastest person we've got, I think, is Percival. Although we'll have to pray he's retained his pace after his injury.

Best defence in the league going into last night's game.

I'm sorry - where did your express train attack finish in the league last season?
The Grand Final?

Must have been an awfully wet season. Damned weather is forever conspiring against you.

Mr Teflon has the Super League trophy sat in his office. That's why he is Mr Teflon. No panic buys to appease the crowd mid game.


Wilkins edge defence has been beyond horrific since he moved to 7, I am actually taken aback by how bad it is. Thank god he'll be going back to the middle as he just isn't made out for it.

But second rows only defend one further in than he is now. One of the supposed advantages of having a second row play in 7 is the defensive element in that role isn't dissimilar (like flanagan last year) - I don't see his return to the pack magically making his positioning not atrocious.

LMS, Greenwood, Vea, Thompson are some of the fastest forwards in the game and can revert to centre position if needed, Roby is no slouch either.
Unfortunately two of our fastest backs and two of those fastest forwards have been out long term.

You mean the same Wilkin who was one of the form players in SL until he was injured?

I'm actually "taken aback" that you are taken aback!

He went from defending as a middle making 30-40 tackles a game and often more, which was his biggest asset, to hardly making any and missing plenty. He will defend at a minimum of fourth in now depending on whether he plays 13, which can hardly be described as the edge. He'll be looking forward to it.

If you think that his defence hasn't gone down the pan since playing 7 and thus moving wider, then you just aren't watching. I just assumed he'd be better out there considering as mentioned he was making 40 plus tackles as a middle and capably so, but it's a tricky place to defend and some players can't adapt easily.

I know usually you'd put up some stats backing up your point with some patronising capital letters and bold underline, so please feel free as it's there to see in the numbers as well as watching from the stand.

He's going to throw the dictionary at you

Are people actually that concerned.

Not that worried to be honest.

I think we will be ok if keep key players fit but our edge defence worries me and I'm not sure us at our best beats Wigan and leeds that their best.

Leeds and Wigan won't be able to live with our pack with us at our best.

The only concern is the defence and error count. Stop gifting teams ball and making daft mistakes and we'll take an enormous amount of stopping.

I'm not sure we can handle leeds outside backs. Hardaker, Briscoe, moon, Watkins, hall etc will tear us apart again.

Our pack will compete but I don't think it's as good as people make out.

You mean like Wigan's outside backs tore us apart? According to the Wigan fans they've never had it this good in ages. [i"Best centre performance in ten years"![/i

EXPLAIN why Wigan couldn't break through our supposedly hopeless back division.

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You really aren't very good at this.

We had a very poor start. Sometimes that happens. 3 unforced errors put Leeds on the front foot.

I don't think we were at the right intensity for this game. According to KC we did not train this week so that may explain why we were so poor controlling the ball. But having watched RL for years like most of us on here these things happen.

If we lose some more games in the next couple of weeks, then I'll worry.

But our run of losses is not horrendous.

I'm sure Wigan will be terrified of Burns running game, he must rival Wellens as the slowest back in Superleague.

I must be in a time warp here, I'm pretty sure we lost on good friday didnt we ?


I said, we can't live with the leeds backs mate and I even named them all just for you.

And yet only one team carried the ball over the line.

You know what Wayne Bennett says about conceding only from kicks? Look it up because I think you'll learn something important.



Oh - so Leeds have a complete monopoly on talent in the backs? Amazing! They really must be putting something in the water over there. Maybe we should call in the drug-testers.



This is emblematic of your bizarre reasoning. I've no idea how or why you develop these cockamamie opinions but you'd do well to at least test whether they float BEFORE dropping them from thirty-thousand feet into the ocean - directly above the Marianas trench.

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