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| Jon Wilkin would end up playing there if that were to happen, I suspect. Maybe even Jordan Turner depending on a couple of things.
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| 'wilkin 6
Wellens 13
Mc Donell 1
(assuming Wheeler does not impress)
Any chance of Lomax making an early return?
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| Wheeler is playing for his entire career, can he handle it??
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| No chance of Lomax coming back any time soon he only recently had his operation according to a recent tweet.
Our options are pretty limited and emphasise why we need to get a stand off in next year.
Turner isn't a 6, Wellens can do a job but isn't ideal, same with Wilkin. Wheeler probably is the best option in terms of he is a natural 6, but he is the most unreliable of all of our options.
Get well soon Lance, we're gonna need you and Walsh fit for the play offs.
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| Quote ="Judder Man"He has done very little tinkering this season with the exception of our mid season injury crisis.'"
He did it during the Bradford match and the London match.
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| Quote ="SaintsFan"He did it during the Bradford match and the London match.'"
Like I said he has done very little tinkering over the 20+ games so far this season, in the Bradford game he messed up the whole backline when giving Roby a rest.
Overall he has been fairly consistent, having Walsh and Lance missing big chucks of the season doesn't help the cause though.
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| Quote ="bewareshadows"'wilkin 6
Wellens 13
Mc Donell 1
(assuming Wheeler does not impress)
Any chance of Lomax making an early return?'"
1 - McDonnell
6 - Wilkin
13 - Manu
Just saying...
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| Forget Wheels, its pointless to even try.
There's only two sensible options for me.
1) Play WIlkin at 6. He has experience there, has a kicking game and playing him along side Walsh should hopefully help improve this side of his game.
2) Play a youngster like Charnock.
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| Quote ="Offside Monkey"Forget Wheels, its pointless to even try.
There's only two sensible options for me.
1) Play WIlkin at 6. He has experience there, has a kicking game and playing him along side Walsh should hopefully help improve this side of his game.
2) Play a youngster like Charnock.'"
I agree on those 2 options, perhaps give Charnock a game against against Wakefield to see how he fits into the team structure.
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| I highly doubt Charnock will play this season.
Wheeler will play 6 on Friday alongside Walsh.
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| Quote ="BackrowSaint"I highly doubt Charnock will play this season.
Wheeler will play 6 on Friday alongside Walsh.'"
And who will do it the week after?
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| Gary Wheeler really is on his last chance I feel. Any sort of breakdown now resulting in a lengthy absence will bring his Saints career to a end..
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| Quote ="Offside Monkey"And who will do it the week after?'"
The sad thing is you'll be right
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| Quote ="Saddened!"1 - McDonnell
6 - Wilkin
13 - Manu
Just saying...'"
And where will wellens play?
In the real world.
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| No way would I ever play wello 6 again. It just doesn't work as he can't play there.
I would pick Wilkin there this week alongside Walsh, I think wheeler time has come and gone and unless we are in dire need I wouldn't pick him at all.
We've got enough backrows to cover Wilkin in sia, flash, Manu, greenwood, Savelio, Thompson etc
My only concern with Wilkin at 6, I think he takes over Walsh a little and I feel Walsh likes to be the main go to man.
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| As Brown stated; Wheeler is the best standoff at the club, so pick him there and let him prove it or not. He should be given at least three starts before any judgment is made.
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| Quote ="redex113"As Brown stated; Wheeler is the best standoff at the club, so pick him there and let him prove it or not. He should be given at least three starts before any judgment is made.'"
when was the last time he made 3 appearences on the bounce? He's not up to it
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| Quote ="redex113"As Brown stated; Wheeler is the best standoff at the club, so pick him there and let him prove it or not. He should be given at least three starts before any judgment is made.'"
Best stand off at the club that can't get a game when Walsh has been out injured.
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| Quote ="Saint Simon"when was the last time he made 3 appearences on the bounce? He's not up to it'"
How can he be up to it when Brown picks a cart horse such as Wilkin in preference? He's not been out because he's been injured he just hasn't been selected.
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| Quote ="exileinpietown"How can he be up to it when Brown picks a cart horse such as Wilkin in preference? He's not been out because he's been injured he just hasn't been selected.'"
And he's behind Wilkin (shamefully) for a reason - for every blinder he has, he has a totally anonymous game.
We all remember the step and inside pass for the Roby try in the first game in the season, great bit of skill, but can you remember anything else that game?
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| Quote ="exileinpietown"How can he be up to it when Brown picks a cart horse such as Wilkin in preference? He's not been out because he's been injured he just hasn't been selected.'"
Wheeler has had plenty of opprtunities this year to rise to the challenge mentally and physically he just hasn,t put a marker down for automatic selection, his career is over at Saints.
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| Quote ="Magic Superbeetle"And he's behind Wilkin (shamefully) for a reason - for every blinder he has, he has a totally anonymous game.
We all remember the step and inside pass for the Roby try in the first game in the season, great bit of skill, but can you remember anything else that game?'"
As I remember it he was dangerous throughout that game. He's not really had a good game since, though.
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| Quote ="Rommel"icon_lol.gif
The sad thing is you'll be right'"
It is sad, I'm a positive thinker, I'm an optimistic fan, but my support of Wheeler is exhausted and rumours that his approach/lifestyle choices haven't helped him have even made me a little bitter about it.
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| I'm not going to go into any rumours as 99% are made up.
But the stats earlier in the year were something like 58 games in 5 years. Yes he gets bumped about, but that's because there is competition for that spot as there is no clear cut favourite. Or there was no clear cut favourite. But Lance has visiably upped his game.
You can see him trying stuff and whilst it may not always come off, that trying and being involved in the game, puts him ahead of the occasional bit of brilliance once every 5 or 6 games.
Also Lance has seemed up until this point to be a bit more robust.
I would still say that Wheeler can spot a gap or make a play better than Lance , but the lack of consistency and robustness makes picking him more of a gamble than a more steady player.
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| Lance is just out and out better than Wheeler. I've never seen anything in Wheeler that would suggest he's got a future in the game, let alone at Saints. He's one of those kids with a big reputation who has just simply failed to live upto the billing.
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