Possibly ,but rotting in the union reserves will do nothing for his game craft or skill levels and those injuries could take the edge off his pace/agility. There is a risk that if he fails in union he could end up pretty much finished.

His talent is unquestionable. However his attitude is (was) terrible.

He could be our (or your) sean long, bad attitude at his first club, but becomes a hero at their rivals

I saw him play a game for Bath wouldn`t pass the ball, went out wide to avoid any hard work, spat dummy out when crowd booed him, gave hidden gestures to the crowd then walked off without clapping the paying public, oh no that was when he played for us

Nah good luck to the lad never hold a grudge

You never know. It's a shame if his talent gets wasted, but he won't be the first and probably not the last. Sadly talent and the right attitude very often don't come in the same package.

I know. I'm NEVER given enough respect on here in spite of my posts being far better than everyone elses.

He came on as a blood replacement, 2 or 3 weeks back and apparantly, had a really impressive ten minute 'cameo'. The main consensus from their fans was that they thought he had done enough to get more game time and were disappointed when he didn't.

Tomkins had a great debut and scored a brace in the LV Cup, I've seen him play 2 league matches one he started and the other from the bench and he was ineffective spilled the ball and generally didn't do much at all. I've seen Kyle play once he was stood out on the wing looking enthusiastic calling for the ball but a punch of 20+ stone men picked up the ball made a total of 2 inches and repeated until they knocked on. He later fumbles a high ball and that was his total involvement. I honestly think the grass is only greener for them in financial terms but both the recent converts look a million miles away from club rugby they can forget about Twickenham and the Lions for now.

I would take Eastmond at Wigan he was an exceptional talent and would be a great replacement for Tommy.

There will be an ex RL to RU player back in RL at Wigan next season.

Andy Farrell to replace the Monkey????

I think people are being very unfair with Kyle. Would people rather he had taken our money and was then injured all the time. The amount of abuse injured players like Sia, Wheeler and Perry have got for spending time in the stands you would have thought a player that left to sit in someone elses stand would be thanked.

Put yourself in Kyles shoes, your a hot property but you are not sure if you are physically up to playing the sport, what to do? Stay at the club that has developed you, take money off them, play at half pace and avoid getting tackled. Or maybe you should take money off some people with more money than sense. You get paid more and get tackled less without having to hide.

After a year or two (and a game or two) your bank account is full, you can then either retire or come back north knowing that if you don't make it you are not going to end up doing a night shift at Asda.

What did Paul Newlove, a proud Featherstonian, do when he knew he was knackered. Sign on a big money contract for Castleford. Newie was a smarter man than people gave him credit for.

SBW to Batley too, you heard it here first.

Lee Smith

I work with quite a few bath fans and often ask them how he is getting on. The response is either " who?" or "no idea". He is seen as a gobby chav from up north who doesn't fit tge cultured image of a club like bath, and has certainly not shown anything on the pitch to overcome that image. He also appears to be living the life of a premier league footballer, so I doubt the mega bucks he is currently earning are likely to set him up for life.

If you go on the bath webiste it has a lot of reports for both 1st and 2nd team that you can have a look at.

He got a run out for the firsts just after christmas (from the bench) but that was it when I read through it (about 2 weeks ago). It also mentioned he'd got a single try in all appearences for the 2nds from full back.

The guy had everything you wanted in a player except for heart.

Chev Walker?

He has a lot of heart. The problem seems to be who for? You can see the difference between Kyle and Sam Tomkins, Sams all heart for Wigan, Kyle was all heart for himself. That's fair enough too, but you don't last long in team sport like that

Rouges, would it be that lad who went to Sale?

He is earning good money. Good on him. I would have done the same. if it doesnt work out, he will have no end of suitors waiting for him back in rugby league.

Nothing wrong with arrogance in an athlete, it breeds skill, confidence and a believe in own's ability to compete at the highest level.
I wish a fully-fit Kyle was at Wigan; he and Sam Tomkins would be two "little annoying people" together and would be unbeatable!!

Kyle and Sam: Apologies for quoting what St.Pete's called Kyle, but I do like arrogance.

All $ removed. "...Will no one think of the children..."

You won't get an answer.
It's a Thorn[size=50l[/sizeey subject for him!

My apologies.

Couldn't agreed more, but you yourself posted on the subject on Thursday at 19:16; why did you not amend St.Pete's posting then
and not today when you amended my posting at 16:26?

I know a moderator's job is a thankless one, but please make the rules the same for everyone.

I'm not talking on the field, I like attitude on the pitch but I'm talking about off the fieid.

He's forgotten his friends and very rare he will txt it ring back. He thinks he's some big superstar.

No chance in hell Kyle will be back at Saints.
But
His talent is unquestionable and could do a job for another Rugby League team.

Him and Tomkins on the same team would be pretty impressive