How often was Ade left defending three men tonight?

Gardner is covering for Longy in defence time and time again. He cant do right for doing wrong.

Most of the time, he is covering a two on one overlap and does as much as he can in the situation. Jees, some people need to take the blinkers off.

Ade is e, he only looks good thanks to Gidley, whenever he gets the ball and has to make some proper yards, he comes infield, to scared to take the man on down the line, Ainscough is twice the winger that Ade will ever be, also Wellens is POO

2/10.

See me.

Might be a poor effort but it is right, Ainscough ain't scared to run the side line where as Ade comes in field every opportunity.

also Wellens is still POO

Not only is Gardner the slowest winger in world RL, his positional play is absolutely shocking with an alarming degree of regularity.

Its hard for Gardner to defend kicks outwide coz teams always have 2 man overlap outwide.

He don't know if to drop back or stay in the line coz of the numbers team have outwide.

It's not just gardner fault it's the whole outside defence like the halfbacks, 2nd rows, centre and winger.

For what it's worth I think long and wilkin was by far the worst player on the pitch. Long has had his worst season in a saints shirt and wilkin was is normal self( rubbish)

Eastmond must be thinking what the hell he has to do to get a game!

Quote ="Rogues Gallery"Look first at the fullback. How many tackles does Wellens miss? He defines average.'" Less missed tackles per game than arguably the best fb www.superleague.co.uk/statistics ... 9&hp2=1142 1 missed tackle per game is pretty good thanks

Quote ="Rogues Gallery"Look first at the fullback. How many tackles does Wellens miss? He defines average.'" Less missed tackles per game than arguably the best fb www.superleague.co.uk/statistics ... 9&hp2=1142 1 missed tackle per game is pretty good thanks

oh, and back on topic ade has missed less than 1 tackle per game where as Roger is on nearly 2 www.superleague.co.uk/statistics ... eason=2009 less than 1 per game is very good IMO

oh, and back on topic ade has missed less than 1 tackle per game where as Roger is on nearly 2 www.superleague.co.uk/statistics ... eason=2009 less than 1 per game is very good IMO

i find it most amusing how fast the goons come on our site when we lose ,
and then have the cheek to tell us how crap we are , I think i speak for all the Saints posters on this site when i say we couldn't give a monkeys ar*e what you soft lads think of us, just look at the tables and weep LOSERS

Wellens Crap,,Gardner Crap !!!!!!!,,,both useless,,,,,,2nd defeat of the season,,,The knives are out!!!!!!What next Potter Out!!!!!!!?

Well, considering were carrying so many players that are useless, i'm surprised we are so successful.

Why?

Gidley = creates and scores tries = back-to-back sets = opposition tiring = even more tries.

Puletua = constantly sucks in 3 or 4 defenders = gaps for average/overated players to score = back-to-back-sets + opposition tiring = even more tries.

You got beat by a poor Bradford side last night and unless Gidley and Puletua regain fitness then expect more of the same against top-four/five sides.

You're being very generous with him there I think.

Quote ="Saint Simon"Less missed tackles per game than arguably the best fb www.superleague.co.uk/statistics ... 9&hp2=1142 1 missed tackle per game is pretty good thanks '" Why let facts get in the way of a demented argument? We (and Ade) deffo missed Gidley last night though. And I thought Wello should have had stopped one of their try scorers.

Quote ="Saint Simon"Less missed tackles per game than arguably the best fb www.superleague.co.uk/statistics ... 9&hp2=1142 1 missed tackle per game is pretty good thanks '" Why let facts get in the way of a demented argument? We (and Ade) deffo missed Gidley last night though. And I thought Wello should have had stopped one of their try scorers.

We missed gid's defence more than his attack

St Helens are a team full of average players, who are only made to look good by ermmm, the other average players around them. This is a FACT.

I mean lets be honest here, fans of random mid table teams like Wigan and Hull KR would know what average players look like, so their opinions should be counted as FACT

Gardner the turnstyle.

We got beat so what so did leeds no harm done, better to get beat this week than next against a really poor side.

Idiot.

Aaawwwww did he say bad words against your team.

gardner should be able to play without gidley there if he cant then we have a huge problem but gidley is a world class player and i look up to this lad me

Ade Gardener is an okay winger. He only looks good because he's played outside two amazing centres in Lyon and Gidley. Last night showed how much improving needs to be done on his part.

Definately, looked lost without gidley last night. It seems like he needs guidance at times.

He needs something alright.