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| Quote ="Bruce_Forsyth"I can't believe Saints managed to lose to such and mediocre team, mediocre club.'"
steady on, we're not that good
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| I expected the loss so I'm not too shocked.
Season is over. What's the point in trying to win the league with no HBs? No side could do it.
God help us against Leeds and Warrington. Another two embarrassments will probably be added to the rest of them that we've had this season.
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| It's just diabolical that we are in the same situation again regarding the halves.
Very very poor by the club. Even if Wilkin and Lance was fit, we still no chance of winning the grand final.
We can't keep going on with playing short in key positions year in and year out.
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| My god, some of your fans are embarrassing. You are top of the league....Hull have been due this type of result for a while.
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| Can't remember a season when so many clubs at the top just lose games they would once win quite easily, do these coaches and clubs not understand how expensive travel and tickets are these days?
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| Quote ="spegs"My god, some of your fans are embarrassing.'"
At least we match the team then.
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| Quote ="Bruce_Forsyth"I can't believe Saints managed to lose to such and mediocre team, mediocre club.'"
Same goes for Wigan and Leeds courtesy of Wakefield and Bradford, we are not alone in these scenarios.
I can give you 6 or 7 reasons in Saints case.
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| Quote ="Albion"At least we match the team then.'"
Awww diddums. Top of the league and the team is an embarrassment?
Fact is we have our pivot players out for the season and will struggle from now on, doesn't make those players toiling on the pitch in bad circumstances an embarrassment, but there are a few fans who fit that bill
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| Other than catching us cold early on and a piece of individual brilliance from manu, you offered nothing at all attacking wise and we looked defensively comfortable all night. Your kicking game was pretty much non existent and an aggressive and enthusiastic Hull forward pack dominated yours for most of the game.
Playing wellens at FB also made things easier for Hull as you know that although he is safe, he's not going to offer any real threat on his kick returns. mcdonnell would have been a much better attacking option for you.
Watching you without recognised halfs was pretty much like watching Hull for much of the last 7 years. Plenty of effort but no real direction or threat and you have no chance of making the GF with the personnel you have.
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| Quote ="FearTheVee"Awww diddums. Top of the league and the team is an embarrassment?
Fact is we have our pivot players out for the season and will struggle from now on, doesn't make those players toiling on the pitch in bad circumstances an embarrassment, but there are a few fans who fit that bill'"
I don't think the team is a embarrassment. I think we've had some embarrassing performances but to be top of the league for most of the season means we must be doing something right.
It's just so frustrating that the clubs lack of signing a genuine halfback to partner Walsh has cost us our best chance in many years of the league leaders and a trip to old Trafford.
I posted before the season started that not having a "proper " 6 could come back to bite us on the bum and sorry to day it has.
(Please don't say lance is a genuine 6 because he's not. He's played well this year but he's not a genuine 6 and never will be)
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| Quote ="FearTheVee"Awww diddums. Top of the league and the team is an embarrassment?
Fact is we have our pivot players out for the season and will struggle from now on, doesn't make those players toiling on the pitch in bad circumstances an embarrassment, but there are a few fans who fit that bill'"
Was just thinking the same thing, I dont think some of the fans on here are of the right standard for a team battling for top spot with 4 out of the 5 playmakers out for the season.
Fair enough there is certain levels of acceptance after a defeat, but some fans on here are definitely "London Broncos" standard.
We all want Wheeler and Turner to do well but in defeat its the usual fickle suspects who come in quickly to condemn it.
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| Quote ="Judder Man"Was just thinking the same thing, I dont think some of the fans on here are of the right standard for a team battling for top spot with 4 out of the 5 playmakers out for the season.
Fair enough there is certain levels of acceptance after a defeat, but some fans on here are definitely "London Broncos" standard.
We all want Wheeler and Turner to do well but in defeat its the usual fickle suspects who come in quickly to condemn it.'"
Do you not think the clubs lack of having two halfbacks like every other team in world rugby has ruined our season ?
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| Quote ="St pete"Do you not think the clubs lack of having two halfbacks like every other team in world rugby has ruined our season ?'"
Just in case you missed it, Lance has been excellent at 6 this season.
Its attitude that has played its part this season. If you go on the Leeds board there is a thread identifying this fact and is a reflection of superleague this year.
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| Quote ="Judder Man"Just in case you missed it, Lance has been excellent at 6 this season.
Its attitude that has played its part this season. If you go on the Leeds board there is a thread identifying this fact and is a reflection of superleague this year.'"
Lance had played well but he's not played like a genuine 6. Would you feel safe with lance being our ball player, directing us round the park and providing a kicking game?
By the way, I'm one of very few who have stuck up for lance.
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| Quote ="St pete"Lance had played well but he's not played like a genuine 6. Would you feel safe with lance being our ball player, directing us round the park and providing a kicking game?
By the way, I'm one of very few who have stuck up for lance.'"
He did well enough vs Leeds at LP. Leon Pryce wasn't a "genuine" halfback by the same arguments Hohaia isn't.
When people say "we need 2 halfbacks" what they actually mean is we need a 4th player who can play in the halves behind the 3 who we currently have who can play there competently... But that doesn't quite have the same affect.
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| Quote ="St pete"Lance had played well but he's not played like a genuine 6. Would you feel safe with lance being our ball player, directing us round the park and providing a kicking game?
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We brought in Walshy to do that job with Lance operating as a running supporting 6. This has been a success this season.
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| I do think calling the team an embarrassment is sad indication of some posters. They are not an embarrassment, some people are either just here to stir or are living outside of the reality that we have no halfbacks.
It's like going into a test match with no fast bowlers, going into a football game with no mid-field. etc etc
It was a close game it's going to be chop and change in the halves until we can magic up some formula to give us some control of the game. It's not even about a kicking game, it sounded like we had plenty of field position, just not the brains to do anything once there.
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| Quote ="Judder Man"We brought in Walshy to do that job with Lance operating as a running supporting 6. This has been a success this season.'"
Sorry but I don't agree.
We are well and truly lacking a 6. Far play to lance, he's done well and puts 100% in every week and often gets dumped on by Brown but he's not a 6. Anyone with half a brain can see that.
Let's look at the pies. If smith gets a broken leg, they have Blake Green that can steer the ship because both green and smith are halves.
What if Walsh went home after one month this year? We'd have been stuffed. We need a 6 and every man and his dog knows it.
Do you think saints are actively seeking out any 6 that might be available just for something to do? No, they are scouting the NRL and super league because we need one! Simple as that.
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| Quote ="Magic Superbeetle"He did well enough vs Leeds at LP. Leon Pryce wasn't a "genuine" halfback by the same arguments Hohaia isn't.
When people say "we need 2 halfbacks" what they actually mean is we need a 4th player who can play in the halves behind the 3 who we currently have who can play there competently... But that doesn't quite have the same affect.'"
Yes he did play like a 6 against Leeds and his kicking that day was very good. Name another when he played the "proper" 6 role well?
No we don't need cover for lance and Walsh, we need a 6 to play with Walsh and that can sail the ship if Walsh is off form or out injured like now.
IMO we need a 6 and lance playing the utility off the bench and can spell robes. Saints know this, Brown knows this and that's why we want a genuine 6.
What world you prefer -
6) Burns/Brown/Mullan/campase
7) Walsh
14) Lance (bench)
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6) lance
7) Walsh
14) tommy lee/GOB or another back up player.
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| Brown got rid of Gaskell, a homegrown player who had helped us get to a Grand Final. I hope he's not getting rid of Swift in the same way.
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| Quote ="SaintsFan"Brown got rid of Gaskell, a homegrown player who had helped us get to a Grand Final. I hope he's not getting rid of Swift in the same way.'"
It's defensive issues. I think swift offers so much more with the ball than Dawson that he has to play. We are going to struggle to put points on the board so we need our best attacking players out on the field.
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| Pretty much saw this result coming, but still doesn't make it any less depressing Going to be a real shame to end the season with such a whimper after showing such promise at times this year.
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| Quote ="bewareshadows"I do think calling the team an embarrassment is sad indication of some posters. They are not an embarrassment, some people are either just here to stir or are living outside of the reality that we have no halfbacks.'"
Yeah I admit I was a bit bored waking up early on a sat morning. I don't actually believe they are an embarrassment, but it is frustrating.
From the comments I've seen from brown and on the hull board it seems like it was actually poor defence and the fact that hull won the middle that lost us the game, as opposed to missing halfbacks.
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| What I find frustrating is that, knowing from the outset that we've only got one proven halfback able to guide the team round the park, we've never looked to blood a youngster in parts of certain games to be an understudy for Walsh at 7. Instead, every time Walsh has been injured, or has need to be rested (sometimes within a game), we've put either a back rower (Wilkin) there, or used 'Mr Flatters to Deceive' Wheeler (when he's fit)
We were crying out for a ball-handling halfback last night, who can direct the play. Surely we have a scrum half in the juniors who has the bones of this ability - and, if not, why the frig not? Brown should have had the foresight to bring in a organising 7 to be understudy to Walsh, and it's a total neglect of duty not to have been working with Walsh to develop the skills of a junior scrum half who'd be able to do a job in stepping in when needed. They don't need to be the next GB 7 (although it'd be great if they could be!), but just able to do the organising/first pivot role.
I appreciate the lunatic decision to scrap the u-21's makes having understudies more difficult, but we should have the foresight to build for the future.
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| Quote ="St pete"It's defensive issues. I think swift offers so much more with the ball than Dawson that he has to play. We are going to struggle to put points on the board so we need our best attacking players out on the field.'"
I can't believe it's defensive issues because we're no better defensively when Dawson is on the pitch.
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