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| Quote ="St pete"Salford ain't great but they showed in magic weekend they can hurt you and the conditions evened it out.
I thought is was good win but not great performance. I'd have took it before the game.'"
Oh I agree, but they don't seem to have a good set of forwards to be a top 8 team and outside of Smith, Holdsworth, Pattern and Moon they are very average.
With 3/4 of those players mentioned rumoured to be moving on I can't see them doing much at all next season.
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| Quote ="St pete"True, how could I forget about that !!!!'"
Thats right, how could you forget the shining light in his expansive and defense splitting performance?
To be fair I thought he went well at 9 when he switched.
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| Quote ="Albion"Oh I agree, but they don't seem to have a good set of forwards to be a top 8 team and outside of Smith, Holdsworth, Pattern and Moon they are very average.
With 3/4 of those players mentioned rumoured to be moving on I can't see them doing much at all next season.'"
I think pattern got another year in him.
Joel moon has impressed this year, he's been very good signing. He's a centre we could do with, he's a strike centre.
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| Geez, our halfbacks were poor tonight. The team totally changed when Gaskell came on. Gasky may make his mistakes and sometimes his kicks don't come off, but I am happy to take all that for all the good stuff he does. He seemed to be a direct replacement for Jones, whose try incidentally should never have been given. At the match I didn't think he'd got it down and watching it back on Sky tonight he didn't. He dropped it.
We were in trouble in the first half as Salford totally dominated us in every respect. It was only because they messed up two clear opportunities (both down the Jones/Meli side) that the scoreline was so close at halftime. (That and the awarding of the Jones try that wasn't!) We were very lucky. However, once Gaskell had come on he caused mayhem with his kicking and pace, and we were able to finish off in style.
The wind was horrendous. One of Makinson's goal kicking attempts blew backwards! Gaskell did a good job with the kicking and it's nice to know he has that string to his bow too. Three goal kickers on the pitch at once. Just a few years ago we had to put up with only Longy and his hit and miss efforts!
Shenton had an excellent game tonight btw.
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| Quote ="SaintsFan"Geez, our halfbacks were poor tonight. The team totally changed when Gaskell came on. Gasky may make his mistakes and sometimes his kicks don't come off, but I am happy to take all that for all the good stuff he does. He seemed to be a direct replacement for Jones, whose try incidentally should never have been given. At the match I didn't think he'd got it down and watching it back on Sky tonight he didn't. He dropped it.
We were in trouble in the first half as Salford totally dominated us in every respect. It was only because they messed up two clear opportunities (both down the Jones/Meli side) that the scoreline was so close at halftime. (That and the awarding of the Jones try that wasn't!) We were very lucky. However, once Gaskell had come on he caused mayhem with his kicking and pace, and we were able to finish off in style.
The wind was horrendous. One of Makinson's goal kicking attempts blew backwards! Gaskell did a good job with the kicking and it's nice to know he has that string to his bow too. Three goal kickers on the pitch at once. Just a few years ago we had to put up with only Longy and his hit and miss efforts!
Shenton had an excellent game tonight btw.'"
The halfbacks was poor, that's the worst I've seen lomax play in a while. Lance was just lance.
I like jones the more I see him.
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| Quote ="SaintsFan"Geez, our halfbacks were poor tonight. The team totally changed when Gaskell came on. Gasky may make his mistakes and sometimes his kicks don't come off, but I am happy to take all that for all the good stuff he does. He seemed to be a direct replacement for Jones, whose try incidentally should never have been given. At the match I didn't think he'd got it down and watching it back on Sky tonight he didn't. He dropped it.
We were in trouble in the first half as Salford totally dominated us in every respect. It was only because they messed up two clear opportunities (both down the Jones/Meli side) that the scoreline was so close at halftime. (That and the awarding of the Jones try that wasn't!) We were very lucky. However, once Gaskell had come on he caused mayhem with his kicking and pace, and we were able to finish off in style.
The wind was horrendous. One of Makinson's goal kicking attempts blew backwards! Gaskell did a good job with the kicking and it's nice to know he has that string to his bow too. Three goal kickers on the pitch at once. Just a few years ago we had to put up with only Longy and his hit and miss efforts!
Shenton had an excellent game tonight btw.'"
Lomax wasn't great and Smith definitely outplayed him. Shenton didn't have an excellent game, but he did ok.
Lots of improvement needed from 1-17 with ball in hand.
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| Quote ="St pete"I like jones the more I see him.'"
I wasn't that impressed by him tonight, I must admit.
I was impressed by Shenton. He showed a lot of what he had at the back end of last season for me. In my top three tonight.
Other standouts were Makinson (as always, obviously!), LMS, Wello in defence (mucked up a bit in attack IMO), Gaskell because he caused all sorts of problems when he came on (why OH WHY isn't he our stand off?!?) and Clough, who made some good yards and was just about our only forward who didn't run sideways. It is SO frustrating to see our forwards run sideways. When did they start doing that? It is just so ineffective.
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| Quote ="SaintsFan"I wasn't that impressed by him tonight, I must admit.
I was impressed by Shenton. He showed a lot of what he had at the back end of last season for me. In my top three tonight.
Other standouts were Makinson (as always, obviously!), LMS, Wello in defence (mucked up a bit in attack IMO), Gaskell because he caused all sorts of problems when he came on (why OH WHY isn't he our stand off?!?) and Clough, who made some good yards and was just about our only forward who didn't run sideways. It is SO frustrating to see our forwards run sideways. When did they start doing that? It is just so ineffective.'"
I'm glad you've seen the light with lance at halfback.
LMS has been outstanding since the day Royce was sacked, I was his biggest critic last year but he's gone up a few gears this and makes a impact off the bench.
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| Quote ="St pete"LMS has been outstanding since the day Royce was sacked, I was his biggest critic last year but he's gone up a few gears this and makes a impact off the bench.'"
He is our best forward - along with Soliola and Roby - and has really improved this season.
He is the only front rower in the team who takes on the defence aggressively
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| Quote ="Albion"He is our best forward - along with Soliola and Roby - and has really improved this season.
He is the only front rower in the team who takes on the defence aggressively'"
Aggression is the key word, I think he lost his aggression last year which effected his game but he's playing like the player we though wed signed.
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| Quote ="St pete"I'm glad you've seen the light with lance at halfback.'"
You're getting boring with repeating that line over and over so I think you need to quit. I 'saw the light' months ago and said so on here, so please shut up.
Quote LMS has been outstanding since the day Royce was sacked, I was his biggest critic last year but he's gone up a few gears this and makes a impact off the bench.'"
LMS, along with Perry, whinged about Royce so it isn't surprising that he is playing well now that Royce has gone. However, he doesn't play well consistently, so he needs to do that before I'll drool over him.
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| Quote ="St pete"Aggression is the key word, I think he lost his aggression last year which effected his game but he's playing like the player we though wed signed.'"
Last season was his first with Saints. He had to step up a few notches after playing with the Broncos. It was no surprise to me that he wasn't playing at the right level last season.
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| Quote ="SaintsFan"
LMS, along with Perry, whinged about Royce so it isn't surprising that he is playing well now that Royce has gone. However, he doesn't play well consistently, so he needs to do that before I'll drool over him.'"
Your getting boring with this same comment about players wanting/getting super Royce sacked and it's getting boring so please shut up.
One man sacked super Royce and he had the backing of 99.9% of saints fans with you being the exception because you liked his first ever interview.
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| Quote ="St pete"Your getting boring with this same comment about players wanting/getting super Royce sacked and it's getting boring so please shut up.
One man sacked super Royce and he had the backing of 99.9% of saints fans with you being the exception because you liked his first ever interview.'"
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| Quote ="SaintsFan"You're getting boring with repeating that line over and over so I think you need to quit. I 'saw the light' months ago and said so on here, so please shut up.
LMS, along with Perry, whinged about Royce so it isn't surprising that he is playing well now that Royce has gone. However, he doesn't play well consistently, so he needs to do that before I'll drool over him.'"
As your looking for another heated debate by coming all over argumentative, I think I'll pass on a argument with you.
You get all giddy when you sense a heated debate.
I'll leave you to it, I'll have a wee, grab bottle water from the fridge and go bed and dream of you.
Sweet dreams my little argumentative flower
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| Quote whose try incidentally should never have been given. At the match I didn't think he'd got it down and watching it back on Sky tonight he didn't. He dropped it.
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I havent seen any replays as I was at the game , the try was right in front of me and looked fine, Jones did really well with alll the Salford attention and changing things around at half time really sparked the team , the wind was appalling which is why a couple of the kicks went out on the full , and Meli did really well in stopping a 40/20 with a nice chase , really good second half
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| The was only Meli from our back line that didn't score a try last night.
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| Quote ="St pete"The was only Meli from our back line that didn't score a try last night.'"
That's possibly because when he did have the chance he faffed.
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| Quote ="Gruntfuttock"the wind was appalling which is why a couple of the kicks went out on the full , and Meli did really well in stopping a 40/20 with a nice chase , really good second half'"
The wind was terrible. Did you see how Makinson's conversion attempt went backwards? And it picked up in the second half as well.
Meli did do well to stop the 40/20.
I thought it was Gaskell coming on that changed things. That lad should be in the team every week.
(Funny how nobody has mentioned we played with a back on the bench last night! )
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| Quote ="SaintsFan"The wind was terrible. Did you see how Makinson's conversion attempt went backwards? And it picked up in the second half as well.
Meli did do well to stop the 40/20.
I thought it was Gaskell coming on that changed things. That lad should be in the team every week.
(Funny how nobody has mentioned we played with a back on the bench last night!
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Your like a Broken record and it's getting very boring now.
Nobody had a problem with the back on the bench under super Royce, the problem was he didn't put him on or only give him a 6 min run at the end.
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| Quote ="St pete"Your like a Broken record and it's getting very boring now.
Nobody had a problem with the back on the bench under super Royce, the problem was he didn't put him on or only give him a 6 min run at the end.'"
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| Well it's not been a dogmatic approach to use as an insurance policy against injury, but more a tactical approach to be able to change up our game. The insurance approach gives nothing to the team other than taking a man out of the match and tiring out other players.
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Sometimes stats are all you need to know to predict a result and this one was almost exactly on the money.
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| Quote ="bewareshadows"Well it's not been a dogmatic approach to use as an insurance policy against injury, but more a tactical approach to be able to change up our game. '"
You think that was tactical last night? I don't think so. I think Gaskell was there as an insurance policy but against Hohaia's performance rather than injury. We were not winning the battle until Gaskell came on for those final ten minutes. And after all, we played in the same way last season but Moore would come on playing the role Hohaia played last night. We look better with Gaskell on the pitch and he should play every week.
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| Quote ="SaintsFan"You think that was tactical last night? I don't think so. I think Gaskell was there as an insurance policy but against Hohaia's performance rather than injury. We were not winning the battle until Gaskell came on for those final ten minutes. And after all, we played in the same way last season but Moore would come on playing the role Hohaia played last night. We look better with Gaskell on the pitch and he should play every week.'"
Nope I thought it was tactical.
If it wasn't tactical - and was insurance as you think - then why wasn't he on the bench against Bradford?
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