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| Quote ="Saddened!"We simply don't know that is the case though. Anything could have happened. Kyle could genuinely have done something wrong. No one is even considering that as a possibility, everyone is convinced it's because we want to get rid of him.'"
Always a possibility,I suppose.Just seems incredibly co-incidental after everything that has gone on.
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| Quote ="daves"Always a possibility,I suppose.Just seems incredibly co-incidental after everything that has gone on.'"
He's already had to publically apologise for his behaviour towards fans so why does it seem such a stretch that he has behaved inappropriately subsequent to that?
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| Quote ="jaybs"Clubs, oh sorry Don, some supporters of Clubs do not rule the game, there are more clubs than St Helens, Matters are not going well at the club, the old ground situation a mess! the handling of Eastmond, a mess! and add to the Graham! so get over yourself please, Saints fans on the pitch have been spoiled for far too long, perhaps it is time for a re-grouping, mould you own young players this season, being at Widnes is not going to be a profit making season anyway!'"
Considering you are from St.Helens what is your problem with the club.
Every time Saints are in the headlines for the wrong reasons you are on here faster than Usain Bolt.
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| Quote ="cjhatesunion"Considering you are from St.Helens what is your problem with the club.
Every time Saints are in the headlines for the wrong reasons you are on here faster than Usain Bolt.'"
Well he does have a very high horse to get him here extra quick.
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| Quote ="cjhatesunion"Considering you are from St.Helens what is your problem with the club.
Every time Saints are in the headlines for the wrong reasons you are on here faster than Usain Bolt.'"
I visit the site every day being my home town! Don don't try to be a comedian as you fail woefully. I may take some (my shoulders are broad) but many of you visit the Quins RL forum when you went to get you penny worth in!
Sorry if people do not like the Truth! and no I was never sacked by the Club.
I think currently the club is going through a time of change and fans have to accept it, have the club dealt with the Eastmond situation then it is No! and that is my opinion, same as the club does not handle its PR well.
The sooner Eastmond has gone the better, and time to push Graham to make his decision, then use this season to shape your young players and ensure recruitment for next season is done early.
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| Quote ="Yed"Which ever bright spark came up with the Dobson deregister idea will be papping himself now.'" No he won't no matter how many times you say it to yourself.
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| The Dobson situation is just a HKR derived way of subverting the system until Mason's tongan passport is sorted. Apart from that, the fact is that Dobson is missing for a few months with injury and would be no use to anyone if he for them signed now. We need a half back NOW, not it a few months time.
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| Todd Carney is being sacked by his nrl club on Friday
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| Quote ="The Chief"The Dobson situation is just a HKR derived way of subverting the system until Mason's tongan passport is sorted. Apart from that, the fact is that Dobson is missing for a few months with injury and would be no use to anyone if he for them signed now. We need a half back NOW, not it a few months time.'"
You could ask Wigan for the loan of Sam Powell the England academy scrum half. He is a very good organiser, with a great kicking and passing game and a superb defender. He perhaps lacks a yard of pace, but that never stopped the likes of Goulding and Deacon.
It could be a good move for both player and clubs.
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| Quote ="Rogues Gallery"You could ask Wigan for the loan of Sam Powell the England academy scrum half. He is a very good organiser, with a great kicking and passing game and a superb defender. He perhaps lacks a yard of pace, but that never stopped the likes of Goulding and Deacon.
It could be a good move for both player and clubs.'"
No thanks.
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| Quote ="Rogues Gallery"You could ask Wigan for the loan of Sam Powell the England academy scrum half. He is a very good organiser, with a great kicking and passing game and a superb defender. He perhaps lacks a yard of pace, but that never stopped the likes of Goulding and Deacon.
It could be a good move for both player and clubs.'"
If we were going to use this opportunity to develop a young player, surely we would rather develop our own than somebody elses?
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| Quote ="cjhatesunion"Considering you are from St.Helens what is your problem with the club.
Every time Saints are in the headlines for the wrong reasons you are on here faster than Usain Bolt.'"
Usain Bolt is on this site cool
What is his username
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| Quote ="SEB"But he isn't a paid employee of the club. His contract has been cancelled and he is now a free agent. There is a 21 page (and growing) thread on the VT if you want to know more!'"
correction has contract has not been terminated, he has just been deregisted. he is still a paid employee of Hull Kingston Rovers.
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| Quote ="HOMER2355"correction has contract has not been terminated, he has just been deregisted. he is still a paid employee of Hull Kingston Rovers.'"
I don't think that's the way the RFL see it.
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| Quote ="Poyser11"I don't think that's the way the RFL see it.'"
Doesn't matter how the RFL see it if Dobson has an agreement with Hull KR to not sign for anyone else whilst he is de-registered.
Think Harris/Leeds/Bulls; no playing contract with a RL team, but also not a free agent (as Bulls found out). Remember, the RFL sanctioned that signing, it didn't make it legal.
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| Quote ="jaybs"I visit the site every day being my home town! Don don't try to be a comedian as you fail woefully. I may take some (my shoulders are broad) but many of you visit the Quins RL forum when you went to get you penny worth in!
Sorry if people do not like the Truth! and no I was never sacked by the Club.
I think currently the club is going through a time of change and fans have to accept it, have the club dealt with the Eastmond situation then it is No! and that is my opinion, same as the club does not handle its PR well.
The sooner Eastmond has gone the better, and time to push Graham to make his decision, then use this season to shape your young players and ensure recruitment for next season is done early.'"
I agree the club is going through a transitional period,no denying this but you seem to take pleasure in this,why.
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| Quote ="cjhatesunion"I agree the club is going through a transitional period,no denying this but you seem to take pleasure in this,why.'"
Its not his fault, he seems to suffer from a bad case of dickus headus trollus. It is a genetic disease and unfortunately some people suffer with it from birth. As of yet there's no cure, but who knows, there's still time, jaybs.
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| Quote ="BackrowSaint"Its not his fault, he seems to suffer from a bad case of dickus headus trollus. It is a genetic disease and unfortunately some people suffer with it from birth. As of yet there's no cure, but who knows, there's still time, jaybs.'"
I just don't get it though.
How can a person who comes from St.Helens have a go at their home town team,it really baffles me.
Don't get me wrong I know some people from this area who support Wigan and Warrington but I don't get it.
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| Quote ="Saddened!"Todd Carney is being sacked by his nrl club on Friday'"
It's not going to happen, but he's the type of player that could turn us from challengers to champions. A class, class player.
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I just don't get it though.
How can a person who comes from St.Helens have a go at their home town team,it really baffles me.
Don't get me wrong I know some people from this area who support Wigan and Warrington but I don't get it.'"
Hey Sad One pin your ears back and listen.
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I just don't get it though.
How can a person who comes from St.Helens have a go at their home town team,it really baffles me.
Don't get me wrong I know some people from this area who support Wigan and Warrington but I don't get it.'"
It would have been easy to support Liverpool or Everton, but no it has always been West Ham United in football and I even worked worked/represented a few Manchester City players, I have supported the Hammer through thick and thin and always will.
Regards rugby league, I used to be on the ground at 1pm for afternoon 3pm kick off's as a youngster to make sure I could get on the wall in the kids paddock in front of the old club house, used to use all my pocket money to go to a photographer in George Street to get photo's, but when I moved into being more deeply involved with rugby league I saw the club from a different angle. In Radio I fought for coverage of League which was a battle even though I was on the management team, even got the radio station to sponsor a game and that was the most embarrassing day in my life! taking some of our top advertisers some from London.
I Believe in expansion! I had an interview with Mr Maurice Lindsay but I am glad I was never offered the job but I respect the way then pushed our game at least people started to hear about the game, unlike these days? So it seemed appropriate to my money were my mouth was with London, that was my choice, no one else's and no regrets, back to the thread I just worry if Sky ever pulls out and people knock me down about this, then were do we go? back to semi professional and how do we keep the young kids then in our Great Game? the problem has always been far too many people supporters are simply Parochial and do not see a wider picture. I do not hate Saints! I try to be constructive, just don't support them.
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| Quote ="jaybs"It would have been easy to support Liverpool or Everton, but no it has always been West Ham United in football and I even worked worked/represented a few Manchester City players, I have supported the Hammer through thick and thin and always will.
Regards rugby league, I used to be on the ground at 1pm for afternoon 3pm kick off's as a youngster to make sure I could get on the wall in the kids paddock in front of the old club house, used to use all my pocket money to go to a photographer in George Street to get photo's, but when I moved into being more deeply involved with rugby league I saw the club from a different angle. In Radio I fought for coverage of League which was a battle even though I was on the management team, even got the radio station to sponsor a game and that was the most embarrassing day in my life! taking some of our top advertisers some from London.
I Believe in expansion! I had an interview with Mr Maurice Lindsay but I am glad I was never offered the job but I respect the way then pushed our game at least people started to hear about the game, unlike these days? So it seemed appropriate to my money were my mouth was with London, that was my choice, no one else's and no regrets, back to the thread I just worry if Sky ever pulls out and people knock me down about this, then were do we go? back to semi professional and how do we keep the young kids then in our Great Game? the problem has always been far too many people supporters are simply Parochial and do not see a wider picture. I do not hate Saints! I try to be constructive, just don't support them.'"
This is a fans discussion board, not a job application. We don't really need to hear your CV thanks.
Well done on what you've done for the game in all fairness, can't knock that.
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| Quote ="jaybs" the problem has always been far too many people supporters are simply Parochial and do not see a wider picture. '"
Why would a supporter of say Huddersfield, ever support the demotion of their club for the planting of a club in say Coventry.
Only supporters who feel untouchable would ever support such a move.
The problem is the sport is becoming a business and any competitive on the field achivements are negated for structural growth.
It's all well and good saying to supporters your club should wither for the greater good. But whose greater good, not that of the supporters whose club is no longer in the top flight and likely never to return.
If you like try taking your TV away from your family and give it to a family in a far flung corner of the globe, then place a restriction on your family getting another TV.
It's the same thing, it expands the geographical availabilities of TV, but does not grow the game in numbers or increase the TV choice for those left with no TV.
If you want expansion you need to allow for growth through promotion as well. No one wants a sport that is not based on sporting prowess but simply structural rules.
Or we may as well pack up and go home. RL is a sport first, business 2nd. As are most sports.
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| Quote ="bewareshadows"................Or we may as well pack up and go home. RL is a sport first, business 2nd. As are most sports.'"
Whilst in principle I'd agree with the sentiment of such a statement, especially at the Community level of the game it's a sport, the reality is that at the professional level of the game people are involved in RL not only because the love the sport but it offers them a way of avoiding the 9-5 drudge of real life, until they retire or go semi-pro and join the rest of society with "propa jobs".
All Sports at the higher echelons these days are business whether we wish them to be or not.
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| Quote ="BackrowSaint"This is a fans discussion board, not a job application. We don't really need to hear your CV thanks.
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Can assure you no job application or CV, LOL, perhaps one day in the past, but came to my senses, just see a game we all love going along blindly and with the about the worst marketing machine at any level including top clubs, except Wigan and Leeds!
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