I think we need to draw a line under Friday it was far more woeful than the score line suggests. However it would be unfair not to give O'Brien another crack at Cas, has as been stated he was not on his own in stinking. I draw the line at Howarth unless he is at nine covering for James he is not capable of covering elsewhere at a quality club such as Saints. No disrespect but he is a Salford standard player.

Saints standards are not very high at the moment that's why you have obrien and howarth on loan and one of the slowest players in the league at 6

I am sorry if you took offence to the comment, I have a lot of time for Salford and the new ground and hope it works out for the club. The point I should be making is Gaskell and Howarth are not of the standard I want to see at Saints, where they end up is not really my concern as a Saints fan.