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| Quote ="snowdog"not that you wouldnt match the asking price.'"
=#8000FFNo, nobody but Saints would match his asking price; Cas, Wigan & Warrington told him to stick it with his ludicrous demands.
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| Quote ="Gaslight"=#8000FFNo, nobody but Saints would match his asking price; Cas, Wigan & Warrington told him to stick it with his ludicrous demands.
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So one fan says Wire offered more, one says Wire told him to stick it.
Saints have been signing top players under the salary cap for years. He'll be getting paid his market rate.
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| Quote ="FearTheVee"So one fan says Wire offered more, one says Wire told him to stick it.
Saints have been signing top players and managing the salary cap well for years. He'll be getting paid his market rate.'"
We've not done that good a job we kept getting pinged for it I agree though, isn't it funny how people know exactly what happened in private meetings with players, clubs, agents... its a shame most of the stories from those in the know differ so much!!!
At the end of the day only a select few will know what Shenton has signed for, we might have offered most, we might not have, it isn't always about the most cash there is career progression and development, finals, medals, new team mates, how well the club treats you all sorts will go into a decision like that - unless you were stuart fielden and were offered the earth would money be the only choice
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| Quote ="Harry Pinner"Really? I thought the pieland view was that all Saints players are plodders who only look good because they are surrounded by quality players.'"
That and they are ancient.
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| Meh he's ok. He ain't at Gidley's level and whether he ever will be remains to be seen.
Who ever plays outside him won't see much ball that's for certain, so if it's Lomax he better get ready for some pretty barren years ahead.
I'll now await for ChieftScout to throw a hissy fit about Wigan fans always playing down Saints signings.
Being nice I actually think he'll do a decent job for you. He's got pace a bit of footwork and the main thing he's got age on his side, so any little weaknesses in game he'll have time to iron out.
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| Quote ="LovesToSpooge"Meh he's ok. He ain't at Gidley's level and whether he ever will be remains to be seen.
Who ever plays outside him won't see much ball that's for certain, so if it's Lomax he better get ready for some pretty barren years ahead.
I'll now await for ChieftScout to throw a hissy fit about Wigan fans always playing down Saints signings.
Being nice I actually think he'll do a decent job for you. He's got pace a bit of footwork and the main thing he's got age on his side, so any little weaknesses in game he'll have time to iron out.'"
And he's English.
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| Quote ="Gaslight"=#8000FFNo, nobody but Saints would match his asking price; Cas, Wigan & Warrington told him to stick it with his ludicrous demands.
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I think it was Warrington who offered the money, But he chose saints, Bradford couldnt meet his demands, Wigan and Cas couldnt compete with the deal Saints have offered. Lets just say, He hasnt gone there on the cheap
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| Quote ="Gaslight"=#8000FFNo, nobody but Saints would match his asking price; Cas, Wigan & Warrington told him to stick it with his ludicrous demands.
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I love these statements. I take it you can state this because you've spoken to all concerned and they all told you what he was asking and what they were prepared to offer.
Or some bloke in the pub said it/you read it on a message board/you're hacked off because he didn't sign for your club/you just like to pretend you're in the know.
I know where my money is.
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| Quote ="Dettoriman"I think it was Warrington who offered the money, But he chose saints, Bradford couldnt meet his demands, Wigan and Cas couldnt compete with the deal Saints have offered. Lets just say, He hasnt gone there on the cheap'"
Why say he hasn't gone there on the cheap? Because you don't know what he's gone there for, that's why. And you also don't know who else offered what.
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| This is what gets me.A player turns a club down and the the fans say they werent turned down,its just that they wouldnt meet the wage demands.I bet if there were no salary cap warrington and wigan would have been back with bigger offers.At the end of the day Saints have a fair bit of spare salary cap,they were able to offer Shenton more.But dont believe hes on mega bucks,our chairman is no mug and hes got a new stadium to pay for !
I dont know why we need a live salary cap.Enough people on here seem to know how much each player is on
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| Quote ="snowdog"At the end of the day Saints have a fair bit of spare salary cap,they were able to offer Shenton more.'"
Has it been officially announced that Shenton has been signed by us?
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| I really do think Shenny will thrive with you lot and become a better player then he is already.
Tiny bit sad he's going, but I'm confident we have another local lad who'll be just as good.
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| Quote ="SaintsFan"Has it been officially announced that Shenton has been signed by us?'"
Errr.....no. Not allowed until Sept 1st I believe. So sshhhh, don't tell the RFL.
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| Quote ="Harry Pinner"Errr.....no. Not allowed until Sept 1st I believe. So sshhhh, don't tell the RFL.'"
Not true, though, is it? If Cas give permission then it can be announced at any time. However, it's just that people on here are making statements as if he has already signed and so I was just wondering if I'd missed the announcement.
Where Saints are concerned, announcements are like buses. You don't see one for bloody ages and then a million come all at once!
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| Quote ="SaintsFan"Not true, though, is it? If Cas give permission then it can be announced at any time. However, it's just that people on here are making statements as if he has already signed and so I was just wondering if I'd missed the announcement.
Where Saints are concerned, announcements are like buses. You don't see one for bloody ages and then a million come all at once!'"
Nothing official yet. But the tone of Castleford's statement suggests that he's going with their blessing, in which case I doubt we'll have to wait until September to find out one way or the other.
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| fantastic signing by the "S"
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| Quote ="RIGSBY"but you would if there was talk of him going to wire i suppose...
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Nope dont rate him.He looks like he would a job,and nothing else.Nothing specail about him,Would rather have Atkins over him.I didnt think much of Atkins when he signed for us.But i have changed my veiw on him, now i have seen play a number of games.Atkins has power, pace and a eye for the try line.Plus just recent adding the kicking game to his amoury.Defence has improved under TS.
From what i have seen of Shenton he has none of these attributes.
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| Quote ="robbierotten"Nope dont rate him.He looks like he would a job,and nothing else.Nothing specail about him,Would rather have Atkins over him.I didnt think much of Atkins when he signed for us.But i have changed my veiw on him, now i have seen play a number of games.Atkins has power, pace and a eye for the try line.Plus just recent adding the kicking game to his amoury.Defence has improved under TS.
From what i have seen of Shenton he has none of these attributes.'"
So you're saying sh.enton has no pace or eye for the try line? Have you ever actually watched him play?
He's a much better centre than atkins, who is a winger anyway
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| Quote ="Mr. Messy"www.castigers.com/article.php?id=929
Castleford confirm he's leaving'"
Simon likes this!
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Quote ="Mr. Messy"www.castigers.com/article.php?id=929
Castleford confirm he's leaving'"
www.skysports.com/story/0,19528, ... 64,00.html
The same report by Sky Sports also has Saints in the headline. "England centre expected to sign for Saints"
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Castleford confirm he's leaving'"
www.skysports.com/story/0,19528, ... 64,00.html
The same report by Sky Sports also has Saints in the headline. "England centre expected to sign for Saints"
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| One thing you learn about Cas is they cant hold thier own water, Everyone knew Danny Orr was signing 3 months ago, The agents/ Players/ Officials etc cant keep their mouths shut and everything gets out, its only a small town
Everyone has know Shenton was joining you for ages too
As for figures, People who know him close, Say you beat our offer, And i know we offered 3 figures
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| Quote ="Dettoriman"As for figures, People who know him close, Say you beat our offer, And i know we offered 3 figures'"
Whhhooooo. 3 figures eh? Would have been one of very few Castleford residents to earn more than £99 a year eh?
So we've got him for £1,000 per year. Superb. Wait till I tell the goons.
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| Quote ="Dettoriman" And i know we offered 3 figures'"
Christ, no wonder he left!
*Edit - Saddened beat me to it.
A further addition to the notions above that people on message boards have an incredible insight into player finances - ie none at all.
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