yet he was only player who was going to win that game for us.

At only 20yrs of age I think he is very very important to us.

I thougt the tackle is only complete when forward momentum was halted. Kyle was obviously moving all the way through the slide.
Personnally, I don't see how his 'non ball carrying arm' being involved in pushing himself along is even in the mix.
If he had people hanging off him and used his legs to push himself over the line, no one would say a thing.
Good try. Simple as that.

his defence was good even that tackle on j. tomkins were he drove him into touch.

So do you really want to see players diving way before the line ala Union style in wet conditions?

10m out in dry conditions and diving does not ensure you hit the line ashmeister.

That is a ridiculous statement you have made.

But it often does when the conditions are wet, as they were last night, and although Kyle did indeed propel himself, it was in one continuous movement which simply fed into the momentum already established by the wet conditions and the impact of the defenders. He wouldn't have scored that try in the dry, at least not without obvious double movement! But it wasn't dry, it was wet. So it was scored and given.

I think at times especially without the experience of Longy we look rudderless at times and lack a creative spark. Leon is more of an off the cuff rugby player that does drift in and out of the game on occassions.

IMO I would love to Eastmond partnering Longy at Half back with Leon at loose forward. That trio would be mouth watering in the play off series coupled with KC and Roby at hooker.

State the obvious.

How would you like the rules to change? If you slide over the line because its been raining all day, you have to release the ball and do a handstand? If its only been raining for half an hour you get sent off? You play to the conditions, end of.

Eastmond didn't stop because it had been pouring down all day, half of his body ended up over the line. If hes strong enough to drag himself that far with one hand and a prop on his back without stopping, I want to have a bit of whatever he's taking.

I thought that we lacked creativity and organisation on many occasions, and Eastmond was one of the only players that looked like he could break the line for us, making a half break on a few occasions. We also took an awful lot of wrong options, that needs to be worked on.

When is Eastmonds contract up?


We watched the last 20 minutes of the game in the Sports bar at belle view dog track last night.

After the game ended a lady came across to the four of us (3 Wigan fans and 1 Saints fan) to talk to us about Kyle Eastmond.

She was from the Oldham area (her dog had just won one of the races) and had family connections with Kyles junior coach .

She said that Eastmond has had a big offer from Rugby Union and will move next year. I presume that is at the end of the 2010 season, I should have asked.

It will be a sad loss to our game if true.

He hasn't signed a new contract recently, like wheeler etc. so there may be some merit in it, As you say big loss if true, saints seem to have quite a few half backs coming through at the moment so with any luck one can fill another void.

Sale are after him.

really.

We should tell them, "He's not for Sale".

Thank you, thank you. I'm here all week.

Looks too small for RU to me - unless he's playing behind a big pack he'll get stuffed everytime he touches the ball.

I love all these people you get to talk to in random places who always have something to say about St Helens. It seems a weekly event you have heard something off someone about a saints player.

get off your high horse with your sarky remark.

If it's so obvious then longy won't get back in the team will he?

Hopefully not.

So you don't believe me?

There were three other people with me, one a Saints supporter who can confirm it. One of the people with me was the son of a Lance Todd winner.

When did I last post that I'd heard something about a Saints player?

from the way potter talks about longy, I would say it's pretty obvious longy will get back in the team.

IMO we should stick with eastmond now if he keeps playing well

Couldn't care less, me. If all Eastmond is interested in is big bucks then I don't want him at Saints. Would prefer to see nurtured some of our other halfback talent, who actually want to play the game and play for Saints.

However, until it's stated as fact then I prefer not to take any notice of the squillions of rumours that circulate cyberspace. People just get bored so they make stuff up instead of getting a life.

If he did go to union it would be a huge loss to both Saints and rugby league in general, it is well known however that Sale keep a close eye on a lot of rugby league juniors in the north west, and ultimately were he to go to the highest bidder there's little doubt that Sale would win that one

i can't see this being true, he has showed glimpses of real talent, but nothing yet to demand a huge ru contract, and where would he play in ru? A nothing rumour IMO

Its prob not true but it's strange that saints ain't got him signed on new deal like the other youngsters.