I take it you'll be dropping the "entertainers" tag now will you, trade descriptions and all that.....

What sort of entertainers have a 60% loss ratio at their home ground?

I thought it was a poor tactic from Saints kicking on the third and forth looking to gain field position. It was almost like saying to Wigan "we can't compete with you in the forwards so we'll have to try this". Problem was you were still making so few meters in 3 or 4 plays that you were often kicking from within your own 30, and to add insult to injury they were poor kicks backed up by a lackluster chase.



I think the worst thing from Saints yesterday offensively, were the laughable panic ridden ends to sets on the Wigan line. At least twice during a period of Saints dominance the end to set's was fluffed.

This. Headless chickens I think is the phrase. We had no one out there who would stand up and be counted and considering we had a World Cup Winner in our team it is, frankly, frightening!!

You really have made a rod for your own back, you self-styled "Entertainers"...

Oh dont worry about us,well have a few things to say further down the line.

That wasnt another reference about Hock before anyone gets upset.

Come on guys we have to suck it up, it's always the way after a derby. But thankfully we have the oppertunity to turn this result around pretty quickly in terms of form on monday and in terms of getting back at wigan in a month.

exactermundo, only a month til we can get revenge!

Clowns?

Entertainment isnt always about winning, its the way you play the game. Incidentally i'd imagine we entertained our wigan friends yesterday !

You may do that, but for you to win there will need to be a massive turn around in attitude from some of your players (as well as a drop off in performance from ours).



The thing that would have annoyed me the most if I'd been a Saints fan (*shudders*) would not have how dull you were, but that Wigan looked like they wanted it more than Saints.



After losing the last game at KR I would have thought that your players would have been desperate to win yesterday. Criticise the likes of Hock and Tomkins all you want, but they really, really, really wanted to beat you. It wasn't just the Wiganers in the side though, all the team bought into that the derby ethos.

I'm keeping the faith at the moment and just as Wire lost after playing Wigan. The Leeds and Wire combination may have been a match too many for Saints to play wigan on the 3rd week. Maybe the effect of the new coaches has run it's course and it's back to our normal level. Maybe it was having only one pivot. Maybe the team had a bad day. Maybe Wigan wanted it more. In the end you can't read too much into one game or 2 games.



This coaching set up have won as many games in 3 as royce and purtill did in 7. So I am not ready to jump to any conclusions just yet. All last year there were doubters saying we will not beat any of Wire, Wigan or Huddersfield and that we would not make the top 4. I'm much more patient and level headed about these things, it's never the end of the world and it's never an amazing side that will go unbeaten all year.



We have work to do and the team should be aiming for top 4. If we can get close to top four in a months time then it's a new 80 mins and I would not read too much into this performance as an indicator for the next one.