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| Quote ="The Chair Maker"Its not a name change, we are still St.Helens rugby football club.
From a branding point of view, the town can say St.Helens home of the legendary Saints.
Listen to the radio and they dont talk about St.Helens they always say Saints, similarly fans from all clubs talk about Saints, not st.helens.
Even when mocking us they use Stains which is a play on the word Saints.'"
Are they mocking me centurion.
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| Clubs have to move on and as long as were not branded with anything other than the Saints then so be it?
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| Sorry, it's a no from me .....
it will shortly be the northwest saints ...as there is already a northants saints and a southampton saints, both the tv and newspapers reporters will start to use the alternative through laziness....why give it to them on a plate
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| Saints RL just sounds cheap. Like they have sat down and gone "We can rebuild him, we have the resources, we just don't want to spend a lot of money."
Market everything as the Saints, we all use the term. If I say "I'm going Saints tonight" most people will know what I mean. But marketing as Saints RL, well, no. It doesn't work.
Nationally, maybe, but why not be St Helens RL? Let people develop the affection to "Saints" like we all have.
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| Who cares?
It's still same club.
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| [iAll changes, even the most longed for, have their melancholy; for what we leave behind us is a part of ourselves; we must die to one life before we can enter another[/i Anotle France
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| Quote ="Ski"Nationally, maybe, but why not be St Helens RL? Let people develop the affection to "Saints" like we all have.'"
St Helens RL on that badge would definitely be better
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| Quote ="Gruntfuttock"I Like the new logo the "new" name its clean simple and i think all of the RL world know us as Saints, as I have said, when im off to a game i dont say "I am watching St Helens RLFC play" , "I am off to Saints" '"
I'm sorry but this is utter rubbish. Of course that is what you say but I say "I am going to watch City", many say they are going to watch United. However, there is no bugger in the entire world who would be happy if the clubs changed their names to United Football Club and City Football Club and dropped the name of Manchester from the official title.
You can't just strip the name of the town from the club. How would Wigan fans feel if they were to be now simply known as Warriors RLFC?
Bulldogs RLFC was tacky in the extreme, the fans woke up and now they have the Canterbury title back.
Does anyone outside of RL have a clue where Crusaders RL come from? How does that enhance their marketing?
At the end of the day, look at the RU Super 14s. Does anyone know where these Cheetahs, Gorillas and Leopards come from? Unless you follow the sport, you don't.
If I wear a St. Helens shirt, Hamish from the Hebrides would know that I supported the Rugby League team from the town of St. Helens. If he saw Saints RL one, for all he knew it could be St. Ives, St. Annes or St. Oliver Plunketts! It would be a loss of cultural identity and a major kick in the teeth for all those that are proud to be associated with their hometown of St. Helens.
Anyway, as it happens, I do believe the club will be marketing themselves as Saints but will still be St. Helens RLFC Limited so there is no official title change anyway, but I just wanted to make my point clear! l
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| Quote ="St pete"Who cares?
It's still same club.'"
Well said Sir.
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| For me it will always br St.Helens RLFC,I know the majority of people when refering to us call us Saints(myself included) but as a proud Sintelliner it will always be St.Helens RLFC.
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| Of course it would make it easier to move the franchise to another town or city if such a move was ever required.
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| You can't have one without the other.
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| Quote ="roader"You can't have one without the other.'"
Of course you can.
Just wait till tomorrow when you go to touchlines and there is a plastecine model of Bootle, with 'Saints RL' new ground embedded into the community.
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| I support St Helens RLFC who happen to be nicknamed The Saints. If that goes I suspect after 35 years so will I.
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| Quote ="Div"I support St Helens RLFC who happen to be nicknamed The Saints. If that goes I suspect after 35 years so will I.'"
Well said sir,exactly my thoughts as well.
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| Quote ="Div"I support St Helens RLFC who happen to be nicknamed The Saints. If that goes I suspect after 35 years so will I.'"
Could call them the puddings for all I care, I am a Saints supporter through and through, and will be till the day I die. Nothing will stop me supporting my team.
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| Quote ="SomersetSaint"Could call them the puddings for all I care, I am a Saints supporter through and through, and will be till the day I die. Nothing will stop me supporting my team.'"
Are you a fan of St.Helens RLFC though.
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| Quote ="Div"I support St Helens RLFC who happen to be nicknamed The Saints. If that goes I suspect after 35 years so will I.'"
Total over reaction, fwiw we as a company will always be sthelens rlfc, the name we trade under might change, but so what, we end up with better sponsors? Well that's all good
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| Quote ="Saint Simon"Total over reaction, fwiw we as a company will always be sthelens rlfc, the name we trade under might change, but so what, we end up with better sponsors? Well that's all good'"
If you refer to our club purely as a ' company' and view it as a trading style then I'm not shocked that you dont get it. Sport isn't an ordinary business. That is my genuine feeling on the matter its not an overaction on my part as far as i am concerned. If you feel different personally then fine but dont judge how important it is to me.
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| O, be some other name!
What's in a name? that which we call a rose
By any other name would smell as sweet;
So Romeo would, were he not Romeo call'd,
Retain that dear perfection which he owes
Without that title. Romeo, doff thy name,
And for that name which is no part of thee
Take all myself.
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| now i know where the negativity from the stadium thread has gone, none of us know the reasoning behnd the log or the Saints RL branding we are all jumping to conclusions and complaining at the slightest thing, for some i am sure the club can do no right.
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| To those of us born and bread in the town the words Saints and St.Helens RLFC will always go together but from a marketing point of view it maybe easier to pick up fans from a wider area if the club isn't as closely tied to a town.
If we hope to attract fans from a wider area we will have to do better on the field than the last two lack-luster performances.
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| I asked today about this and it was confirmed that we are not dropping St Helens RLFC
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| If it helps us market the team and the new stadium who cares what they call us?
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| Quote ="gateaux"I asked today about this and it was confirmed that we are not dropping St Helens RLFC'"
I would have thought that was obvious. I'm amazed some people think differently.
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