thats all we need hes our only forward

I'll give the best 10 -15 seconds of Prop if that helps

I'm a utility back, but I could also fill it at second row if needs be. Looks like I might get a game with all our injuries.

I hope we get the player we're after

Which player would this be ?

Chris Dean didnt play for Widnes today so i assume Saints have called him back, he will play in your next game looking at the injuries you currently have.

Lionel Messi to play fullback?

Sounds like a fishing exercise but I'll bite anyway. What are you talking about? You can't tease the c ock like that and not give out.

What's your likely 17 for next week then?

Will it be enough to beat Bradford's likely :

Halley
Sheriffe
Sykes
Nero
Reardon
Kearney
Orford
Lynch
L'Estrange
Scruton
Hall
Langley
Menzies

Godwin
Kopzcak
Worrincy
Donaldson/Whitehead/Olbison

hope none of your players are out long and good luck ,seen enough injuried ourselfs to know how it fooks your season up

You're still an idiot.

As a coach I know that (a) poor tackling technique and (b) poor conditioning can lead to injuries. Also, poor defence can do so because people scramble without getting themselves into safe positions to make the tackle. Therefore, if Potter is not training them well and/or the conditioner is not doing his job appropriately, injuries on the field are more likely to occur. Bruising to the ribs and sternum would be excellent examples of such injury.

That's anyone's guess! Meli hasn't reappeared yet either ... (mind you, except that he would be an extra body on the pitch, that is probably a blessing)


Unlikely!

I think we'd have a job beating ourselves out of a paper bag if we play as we played last night, especially if we do have Graham out of action.

Yes, as that is a dreadful team bar 4 players. The three-quarter line is even worse than ours and at the moment that is saying something.

Whether it will win or not is another matter, as the players look dejected and the tactics are as bad as last season.

Nice one, just have a dig at Bradford when I'm coming on here to ask a fair question.

Who are the four that aren't dreadful?

Which out of Scruton, Lynch, Menzies, Orford, Langley, Hall, L'Estrange, Kearney, Halley, Donaldson, Kopzcak, Sykes, Nero, Reardon, Whitehead & Godwin are terrible?

Obviously Orford, Menzies and Lynch aren't dreadful so who is the only other decent player?

It's not a dig mate. I remember you having a go at me for calling the Bradford team on the virtual terrace/ I like the Bulls, i respected your team when we was going for titles. However i do not rate your team or coach, people seem to think Bradford will do well because you have signed a number of Australians. I truely believe you will be bottom 3 this season mate.

Will Saints win on Sunday ? I think that depends on Saints to be honest.

i don't think the bulls will make the 8

No it isn't. They didn't gel on Friday but then they have crucial players who are new to the team so it's likely they will need a few matches to get into their rhythm. Our lot have had plenty of chance to get into their rhythm but alas they don't seem to have one other than slow, dropping ball, falling off tackle and failing to score try. Pretty much the same rhythm as much of last season only we've added the extra beat of falling off tackle.

I'll be surprised if we do, unless we see a very, very dramatic improvement in all areas of our performance.

I'm sure you will come good! We(Leeds) have hardley set the comp on fire so far!

It wasn't a dig, it was the truth. Critics seem to be expecting a lot from Bradford this season, but I can't see the potential.



Where did Bradford finish last season? They sign a star (but aging) halfback, a decent hooker (when they already had one) and a stand off that hasn't played for a year due to injury, and all of a sudden they are a top side?

If all those players are out I would go with

wellens
lomax
gidley
pryce
meli
wheeler
Moore
puletua
Cunningham
fozzard
clough
flannery
wilkin

roby
frodsham
Hargreaves
ashurst

Nice to see the return of Meli, back in the UK since thursday last I beileve.

i'm pretty much sure that we have more forwards??

But your point wasn't that poor conditioning by the conditioner leads to injuries, it was:



Which, even for you, is daft.

Should James Graham not be smashing into their huge blokes? He's our go to prop for heavens sake.

Sia twisted his ankle. And he's enormous. Hardly Potter's fault for telling him to "smash into those huge blokes" - that's precisely his game.

Gardner's injury was an accident and was him defending out wide, not "smashing into huge blokes".

Eastmond hurt himself kicking the ball.

Potter can be blamed for a number of things, but when you start blaming him for those sorts of injuries you've lost all sense of perspective.

Then again, I think most people lost their sense of perspective a long time ago. You'd think we always started the season like a house on fire.

Here is what I said:

[iPotter is clueless. Making our guys smash into those huge blokes was suicidal and we're now going to pay the price.

I do wish he would realise we are not the Dragons. We are not big beefy blokes. We need to avoid big beefy blokes.[/i

Now, that's what I said in context, rather than in terms of your personal agenda.

You don't barge up the middle time and time again when you have a squad of the size Saints have. There are not enough big blokes in it to do that. It's bad planning, bad coaching. If you choose not to see that or you are too clueless to see that then that is not my problem but yours. And I seriously don't care what you think of me.

Incidentally, I saw Ade's injury happen. It wasn't an accident; it was a direct result of the tackle. He's not a prop and shouldn't be used as one.


Whereas some people have their own head so far up their own backsides that they can no longer see the truth for crap. Clearly you read no posts. This isn't about winning our first game of the season. It's about seeing the same old rubbish being played by our guys that was played in the final third to a half of last season. Nothing has changed and he's had a long off season with most of the players but still they can't attack - and in fact on Friday night they couldn't defend either.

If they turn out against Bradford and play stunning rugby league, win or lose, then I'll happily stop calling for his head and wait for another few games (to see if it is a reaction from the players rather than a sudden upswing in his coaching abilities). If the sound, attacking rugby league that I know we can play returns I will happily back track. However, until that happens, should it ever do under Potter, then I will quite happily join the growing number of people expressing their displeasure at his influence on the team I support.

I have no "agenda". My only "agenda" in making my post was to question blaming Potter for players picking up injuries as if in RL you can somehow avoid taking on bigger opposition.



The injuries weren't picked up doing that.



I do like how taking a coaching badge has suddenly made you the oracle and able to bandy around insults like "clueless", "idiot" etc. Hopefully that's not how you coach.



He was tackling out in the channels, not being used as a prop. In what way do you think he was being used as a prop out of interest?



Again, hopefully you don't speak to your young players like you speak to me.



I don't particularly disagree, as I say my point is that Potter is not to blame for us picking up injuries on Saturday any more than Anderson was to blame for players dropping like flies in his first season en route to missing out on the GF from 1st.



Good stuff, and I will quite happily defend Potter when the accusations are about things beyond his control (such as the injuries on Saturday).

We looked rusty. We were always going to as we didn't have the quality of run out that Hull did against KR. Injuries didn't help - we started the game very well before we needed to start re-jigging.

We're not in the abysmal shape the over-reaction on this board would suggest. Our last competitive game before last night was the Grand Final (which we almost won) and I wouldn't be at all surprised to see us muller the Bulls next week to kickstart our season.