Nothing to see here. All on next week. Were the ubder dogs. Lets do it.

Luke Walsh is the worst defender I've seen since Ben Walker! He makes Sandow look like a brick wall in defense. Now, I'm sure Saints will be far better with Walmsley back, but that left edge is huge Achilles heel.

I think tonight (and last week) makes me worry. We have lost the physical battle again and this week our defence hasn't saved us.

If Walmsley plays next week then I'll be confident. If he doesn't make it then it will be a massive blow.

Just looked tired tonight. It happens. Longer turnaround for the semis than any other team in them, and Walmsley should be back. It's not as bad as losing to a mid-table team implies.

Too many players dropping the ball, poor line speed and poor discipline, its not rocket science that warrington were going to give it the heave ho. Maybe our players were a bit drained from last week and took there eyes off the ball ready for next week.

Tonight was a very good summary of our season really. Ridiculously poor with the ball, weak defensively yet still had some backbone to still be in it. When we pulled it back to 4 points, I said to those around me that it was ridiculous that we were in that position. We were shocking. Warrington were really poor as well. Credit to them for finally showing some pride in themselves, but I don't think they would have come within 40 of Huddersfield, Wigan or Leeds tonight. That just sums up how poor we were. We made so many unforced errors, the play was scrappy and disjointed. The pack made precious little ground, the backs don't seem to have a break in them.

I just don't understand what that was tonight. There were two choices. Open both barrels on Warrington and smash them off the park and go into the semi in form, or rest the key players and have the rest do a professional job. What was the point of James Roby playing tonight exactly? That must have been one of the worst performances in a Saints shirt from him, he looks done. He missed tons of tackles tonight, the first attempt he made was unsuccessful on a ridiculous number of times. People were literally walking through him and he did nothing with it. Fatigue. Another who should not have done the minutes he did was Andre Savelio. Class player and worked hard, but you could see after 10 minutes he was blowing. LMS another. They didn't need that tonight and it'll probably cost us what little chance we had next week as well. Sums KC as a coach up for me. Too simplistic, no thought.

If Fages in the Hohaia role is the squad complete for next season, I'll say with complete confidence now, we won't be in the hunt for any of the trophies. Not good enough.

Having said that, go and give whoever it is beating us next week absolute hell. Give them everything.

No excuses, we just found our level again.

COMEDY GOLD, The gift that keeps on giving

We just struggle to motivate ourselves against the smaller teams ...

I just don't think they have it in them to play well in consecutive games, which is a problem given the situation we've found ourselves in.

funny you and the ref have beat that small team 3 times this season...seeing as your the smaller team left in the comp you should cake walk it...providing you take those vid refs with you,,the semi and the final will be a walk over for you.....

I think Tony Smith post match summed it up well for his team." We need to be more consistent against the BIGGER teams", at least Tony knows his place in the grandeur of things.

Aww that was your cup final tonight wasn't it? Against your more illustrious, more successful, much bigger rivals. Well done, put your feet up and enjoy the preseason. You leave it to the big lads to have a crack at winning the Grand Final...again.

It was a poor show really. No energy no sparkle.

Percival and savellio were great, honorable mention for swift.

The rest, meh.

LMS had a mare, as did via. Mose was back asleep. Just not good enough.

Similar to the semifinal against Leeds we hit a good game and then nose dive a week later.
We can't blame turn around as Warrington had a shorter one.

Thankfully we can write it off as a bad result.

If we play better next week no one will care.

I thought Swift played well for you, although apart from Savelio non of the forwards turned up, really. It may just be me, but I'm not sure what Greenwood does to warrant the hype. He's a big unit, and he runs good lines near the try line, but is his all round contribution good enough?

Aren't most of the top teams showing that the Super 8s is just harder than the simple league system? It will take players a while to get used to more regular intense games, but its an absolute must in the end to improve standards. Assuming the system stays in place it will be very interesting to see how coaches balance player fatigue and trying to get as good a league position as possible.

The two things that need addressing are getting rid of the now pointless extra Millenium game (or whatever its called) and moving the CC to finish before the Super and Middle 8s kick off.

We'll put our feet up and be looking forward to our big club-esk signings for next year, while you'll be out next week and looking forward to Poundstretcher Peyroux and fags.

Lost the physical battle, with our huge unstoppable pack ? Never!!!

Mugwump will be along to explain (maybe)

There was only Sav taking the ball up with any enthusiasm, Via trying too hard, LMS the worse of a bad bunch. Good job Percival was playing otherwise the Wire could have scored 50. No aggression in any shape of form, think I would like Burns to come back into the side when available.

Despite us being very poor (and the 2nd best team), we still could have snatched it with 10 to go.

Take out LMS’s hatful of ridiculous penalties and errors, we may have even led earlier on. Hell, if Jordan Turner (a normally very good finisher) doesn’t lose that ball, things could have turned out very different. Its hard to be too critical of LMS as he obviously tries very hard, but he’s full of stupid (and pressure relieving) mistakes. Maybe he’s doing too many minutes and the fatigue is addling his brain.

However, we are (again) being totally out played at the ruck. We never show the ability to slow the oppositions PTB, whilst allowing them to slow ours. This is the greatest problem we have by far.

Walsh simply is not offering enough. He’s not injecting himself into the game, sitting back, 10 yards from the line and then offering a laboured drop off is doing nothing. His long kicking is not happening, either, being out shone by Wilkin and Turner (and Sandow). We’d be better moving Wilkin to 7 and taking the extra big man.

We look rubbish. But we did last week and beat Wigan. We also looked rubbish this time last year and won the whole thing. I find it hard to believe that will happen again this year, but I said the same last September.

i'm reading between the lines on last nights game. Wilkin was at the fans forum the night before and current players tend not to show up the night before a game, Alex Walmsley and Burns where rested and it also looked like we played to avoid injuries. I also believe that KC is counting on Leeds winning the title and i think he would rather play leeds away then wigan away.

Hey, you never know mate, next year might be your year...

Last night just felt a bit weird. Like the week before a challenge cup final were nobody wants to get hurt.

I'd have preferred a home game, but is there really much advantage to that amongst the top 4? Our place isn't the fortress like Knowsley Road. Leeds are beatable at Headingley, we've done Huddersfield on their 3/4's empty patch and we bring that many people to the DW it's like a neutral venue.

It's anybody's.

The big one is if we get Wigan. Their form is very different between home & away.