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| Sorry if this is elsewhere but not seen it?
5,348 is the reported attendance for your game last night on both the BBC and Super League Websites?
Surely this is an error? 5k can't be right can it? I thought you had approx 8k ST holders? Can any who went confirm?
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| Quote ="gerr'emonside"Sorry if this is elsewhere but not seen it?
5,348 is the reported attendance for your game last night on both the BBC and Super League Websites?
Surely this is an error? 5k can't be right can it? I thought you had approx 8k ST holders? Can any who went confirm?'"
It is correct however unsurprising.
The conditions in St Helens were awful with many anticipating the game to be called off. It was nothing short of a blizzard and I'm amazed that we managed to get so many there. The expected attendance was around 11k which isn't bad at all against Salford, so a few people must have decided not to come on the day.
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| Quote ="BackrowSaint"It is correct however unsurprising.
The conditions in St Helens were awful with many anticipating the game to be called off. It was nothing short of a blizzard and I'm amazed that we managed to get so many there. The expected attendance was around 11k which isn't bad at all against Salford, so a few people must have decided not to come on the day.'"
Surely there's some discrepancies in how attendances are being calculated in the league then as if you have say 8k ST holders, I thought these always got calculated in the attendance regardless of whether they attended.
I know Wigan certainly do this, which is why the widnes game tonight had only around 8k on IMO, yet 11,900 was given as the attendance?
I would have expected 8k+ as a minimum at saints declaring all their ST holders?
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| We've about 10k season tickets, but I for one was wrapped up warm at home last night!
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| Quote ="gerr'emonside"Surely there's some discrepancies in how attendances are being calculated in the league then as if you have say 8k ST holders, I thought these always got calculated in the attendance regardless of whether they attended.
I know Wigan certainly do this, which is why the widnes game tonight had only around 8k on IMO, yet 11,900 was given as the attendance?
I would have expected 8k+ as a minimum at saints declaring all their ST holders?'"
I don't know how Wigan do it but at Saints it's done by gate passes if I'm not mistaken, so it's the actual attendance on the night.
I must admit I was slightly dubious of the 11k attendance announced by Wigan tonight.
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| Yes I thought it looked about 7-8k at Wigan! I was out in that great town this evening, can't say the snow was THAT bad once you're out of Billinge. Then again, was bloody freezing
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| Warrington had the same bad snow conditions, but they still attracted 9,000 plus, did Saints get it wrong the number of changes to the time game on or off would be announced?
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| I think if you close 2 stands or a stand you have to work out the attendance differently.
For example, with the stadium completely open you take the capacity minus the season ticket holders minus the tickets available on the day (the figure is the capacity minus season ticket holders).
If you close a stand then you can no longer start with the ground capacity and must count each entry on the day.
Once you are at full house, that's it, even if season ticket holders turn up, they are not allowed in. This has happened elsewhere in the past, I recall but can;t recall exactly where.
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| That would cause quite a bit of chaos if that happened. Turning season ticket holders away blimey
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| Quote ="jaybs"Warrington had the same bad snow conditions, but they still attracted 9,000 plus, did Saints get it wrong the number of changes to the time game on or off would be announced?'"
The conditions in Warrington were not the same. The roads were far worse in St Helens.
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| What was the Wigan crowd?
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| Quote ="St. Rughead"What was the Wigan crowd?'"
They give out 12,000,but if you go on their site most of the regulars reckon the actual figure was between 6 and 8,000.
Also haveing seen a picture of the Warrington game there was nowhere near the 9000 they give out.
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| There was never 12,000 at Wigan!
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| Well they are going to get taxed on whatever attendance they officially announce, it was always felt that some clubs played it the other way to pay Less Tax!
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| Quote ="BackrowSaint"The conditions in Warrington were not the same. The roads were far worse in St Helens.'"
I'm only 3 miles from the Warrington ground and it was bad! what was the conditions like in Wigan then? the St Helens attendance was Poor! however bad it was, but I still feel when you keep putting the announcement back of when a game is on or off then it does put supporters off travelling!
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Quote ="Don Brennan"Also haveing seen a picture of the Warrington game there was nowhere near the 9000 they give out.'"
Well I was there and I would say it was an accurate figure. Perhaps the photos you have seen were from before kick-off? Have a look at the background to this one to see a quite busy South Stand and to be fair to Huddersfield fans their numbers were hardly different to how many they normally bring, they were just all grouped together at the back of the West Stand:
gcsports.zenfolio.com/p649796395 ... #h591aea40
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Well I was there and I would say it was an accurate figure. Perhaps the photos you have seen were from before kick-off? Have a look at the background to this one to see a quite busy South Stand and to be fair to Huddersfield fans their numbers were hardly different to how many they normally bring, they were just all grouped together at the back of the West Stand:
gcsports.zenfolio.com/p649796395 ... #h591aea40
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| Quote ="jaybs"I'm only 3 miles from the Warrington ground and it was bad! what was the conditions like in Wigan then? the St Helens attendance was Poor! however bad it was, but I still feel when you keep putting the announcement back of when a game is on or off then it does put supporters off travelling!'"
Wire v Hudds was a top of the table clash so would have been much more of a draw. The conditions at LP were Baltic to be fair. Mind you 5300 at some grounds would be about 3 times the average.
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| Quote ="jaybs"I'm only 3 miles from the Warrington ground and it was bad! '"
Tis like that in Warrington though. The town centre can be almost snow free but the outskirts can be really bad. I've seen worse in Warrington and it wasn't as bad as St Helens, not within an hour of kick off anyway.
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| I'm a season ticket holder as are the 2 people I normally go with and we didnt go. We didnt fancy getting stuck if things got worse and tbh we didnt fancy being frozen sat there. Radio and nice warm house won
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| Quote ="jaybs"I'm only 3 miles from the Warrington ground and it was bad! what was the conditions like in Wigan then? the St Helens attendance was Poor! however bad it was, but I still feel when you keep putting the announcement back of when a game is on or off then it does put supporters off travelling!'"
I travelled to and from Cinnamon Brow (Wireland) to LP on Friday evening so feel qualified to comment on the conditions in the respective places.
Conditions were definitely a lot worse in St Helens. It was snowing quite heavily when I left at 6.40pm, but was not reallly sticking. The snow got gradually heavier and amounts on the ground deeper the nearer you got to St Helens, appreciably so from Burtonwood. Whilst the stadium surrounds were clear, approach roads and footpaths had about 1" of snow, which more than doubled over the course of the game. Return journey was a little dodgy until the Winwick side of Burtonwood, when once again conditions improved markedly.
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| I live in Warrington and have several friends who went the game - they said it was fine (not literally obviously) and nothing like this:
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| Can we start a new thread each time we have more on than Warrington ?
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| There was a time when Saints used to mock Warrington because a) we could never beat you and b) we didn't win trophies. Now you can't mock Warrington for that you're reduced to waving willies about having more snow. I almost wish SC wasn't still banned...
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| Quote ="Ian 77 Redux"There was a time when Saints used to mock Warrington because a) we could never beat you and b) we didn't win trophies. Now you can't mock Warrington for that you're reduced to waving willies about having more snow. I almost wish SC wasn't still banned...'"
There's still plenty to mock Dire with , like how many times have you won super league? or for that matter when was the last time you were champions full stop? Also there's quite a bit of mileage in some ageist jokes
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| Its getting like a school yard who had the most snow! lol all the press said it snowed constantly throughout the game in Warrington!
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