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| Saints have announced their 19 man squad ahead of this Friday's clash with Salford.
There are 4 changes to last weeks squad with Paul Wellens, Josh Perry, Nathan Ashe and Dom Speakman all being called up. These replace Jonny Lomax, James Roby, Joe Greenwood and Jordan Hand.
Lee Gaskell does not feature in the squad.
1. Paul Wellens, 2. Ade Gardner, 3. Jordan Turner, 4. Sia Soliola, 5. Francis Meli, 6. Lance Hohaia, 8. Josh Perry, 10. Louie McCarthy-Scarsbrook, 11. Tony Puletua, 12. Jon Wilkin, 13. Willie Manu, 14. Anthony Laffranchi, 15. Mark Flanagan, 16. Paul Clough, 19. Josh Jones, 21. Tom Makinson, 23. Nathan Ashe, 25. Alex Walmsley, 31. Dom Speakman.
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| No Lomax or Gaskell.
Wonder what's up with J-Lo?
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| Quote ="FearTheVee"
Wonder what's up with J-Lo?'"
Slight knock, precautionary to ensure he's fine for Wigan.
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| Makinson/Ashe
Gardner
Jones
Turner
Meli
Hohaia
Wilkin
Laffranchi
Speakman
LMS
Soliola
Manu
Wellens
Puletua
Clough
Flanagan
Walmsley/Perry
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| I am surprised no Gaskell again
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| Just when you thought it was safe to go watch the Full Back...
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| Well, at least we won't be in danger of being predicatable this year.
I'm glad we've got chance to see Speakman, but I'm a little suprised by the rest.
No Gaskell, no percival, but he brings in Ashe, who we thought he didn't rate?
Will he play Wello fullback, or will he try him at loose and let one of the younguns have a go?
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| Well he likes to keep everyone guessing doesn't he?
You would assume that Salford would be an ideal match for Wellens to bed in to a new role, but the change in Lomax not playing leaves FB open to Wellens too.
No Gaskell, so pretty much that's in on that discussion front.
Speakman for Roby, so he's determined to replace like with like if a senior is out injured rather than move players about just to have a full senior team out regardless of ability in that position.
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| Quote ="Offside Monkey"No Gaskell, no percival, but he brings in Ashe, who we thought he didn't rate?'"
Has he said he didn't rate Ashe? If he did then from experience so far that means he does really.
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| Quote ="SaintsFan"Has he said he didn't rate Ashe? If he did then from experience so far that means he does really.'"
No, Brown himself didn't. One of the "in the know" crowd implied it.
Wasn't there a tweet to say we were going to see Swift soon?
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| Quote ="SaintsFan"Has he said he didn't rate Ashe? If he did then from experience so far that means he does really.'"
Surely you can't be unhappy this week, barring Gaskell not being included?
Speakman called up, Ashe called up too. Not moving around senior players just to ensure a senior team is out, he's actually bringing in young players to have a shot.
You always say how you like to see young lads given a chance, this year we've seen Brown give plenty kids a chance to play, more so than your beloved Simmons. Lads like the following who we would not have expected to see:
Joe Greenwood
Anthony Walker
Jordan Hand
Mark Percival
Now Speakman and Ashe have both been called up into the squad. You could also include Walmsley in that list as most were expecting him to play predominantly for Batley this year.
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| Quote ="Carlos Alberto"Just when you thought it was safe to go watch the Full Back...'"
He's back to add power and pace to our attack
Maybe that's why he's slow - he's got a Widnes player stuck on his .
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| A bit of a guess but I'll guestimate
21. Tom Makinson, 2. Ade Gardner, 3. Jordan Turner, 19. Josh Jones, 5. Francis Meli, 6. Lance Hohaia, 12. Jon Wilkin,
8. Josh Perry, 31. Dom Speakman. 25. Alex Walmsley,
4. Sia Soliola, 13. Willie Manu,
1. Paul Wellens,
14. Anthony Laffranchi, 16. Paul Clough,
10. Louie McCarthy-Scarsbrook, 11. Tony Puletua,
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| It's also worth pointing Soliola may not play this week. He probably won't be training much as the court case regarding the assault on him last year is going on this week.
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| Quote ="BackrowSaint"Surely you can't be unhappy this week, barring Gaskell not being included?'"
I've said elsewhere that I don't think we will see Gaskell in the first team again this season. So his absence comes as no surprise to me. Unhappy? Neutral. If we win on Friday then I'll be happy; if we don't, then I won't. Same as most fans I should imagine.
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| Quote ="SaintsFan"I've said elsewhere that I don't think we will see Gaskell in the first team again this season. So his absence comes as no surprise to me. Unhappy? Neutral. If we win on Friday then I'll be happy; if we don't, then I won't. Same as most fans I should imagine.'"
Well yeah of course, but I was referring to the selection of the 19. You don't seem favourable towards Brown's selections, I was asking if this week you are happier. As he has included more young players which as you state you like to see?
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| Quote ="BackrowSaint"<snip>'"
You have memory problems. I think you need to recall 2011, look again at the playing roster, note who had their debuts during 2011 and then come back to me. Ashe, for example, had his debut against Hudds in 2011. That would be the game when over half our team on the field was from the under 20s.
But anyway. Why do you keep harping on about Simmons? You are obsessed.
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| Quote ="BackrowSaint"Well yeah of course, but I was referring to the selection of the 19. You don't seem favourable towards Brown's selections, I was asking if this week you are happier. '"
The only players I think I have commented upon this season are Makinson and Gaskell. So exactly where have you got the impression from that I am not favourable towards Brown's selections? (Answer: your imagination)
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| Quote ="SaintsFan"You have memory problems. I think you need to recall 2011, look again at the playing roster, note who had their debuts during 2011 and then come back to me. Ashe, for example, had his debut against Hudds in 2011. That would be the game when over half our team on the field was from the under 20s.'"
I'm not saying they're making debuts, merely that Brown is giving opportunities to a lot of players who ordinarily we wouldn't expect to get a game. That game was also forced changes due to injuries, as it stands Brown is giving players opportunities when there are other senior options available.
Quote ="SaintsFan"But anyway. Why do you keep harping on about Simmons? You are obsessed.'"
I think it's you that may have memory problems, my last post about Simmons was a while ago and I certainly don't post about him often at all. Perhaps you're getting me confused with another poster or perhaps it suits you to think I always harp on about Simmons.
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| Quote ="SaintsFan"The only players I think I have commented upon this season are Makinson and Gaskell. So exactly where have you got the impression from that I am not favourable towards Brown's selections? (Answer: your imagination)'"
Exactly, you have been repeatedly posting negative comments about Brown's selection policies regarding these two players. Thanks for confirming what I was saying.
I actually wasn't looking for an argument more a debate. I should know by now you're not open to reasonable debate and shall leave this one here as I can't be bothered wasting any more of my time.
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| Quote ="BackrowSaint"I'm not saying they're making debuts, merely that Brown is giving opportunities to a lot of players who ordinarily we wouldn't expect to get a game.'"
That was so not your point!
Quote I think it's you that may have memory problems, my last post about Simmons was a while ago and I certainly don't post about him often at all.'"
Hilarious. From your post on the previous page:
[iYou always say how you like to see young lads given a chance, this year we've seen Brown give plenty kids a chance to play, more so than your beloved Simmons.[/i
See the last word? It's Simmons.
Do please shut up about Simmons. Get over it. He's long gone now.
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| Quote ="BackrowSaint"Exactly, you have been repeatedly posting negative comments about Brown's selection policies regarding these two players. Thanks for confirming what I was saying.'"
You're weird. You know full well that isn't what you said.
Are you deliberately trolling? Because that is certainly what it looks like.
I think I will leave you to talk to yourself, as I'm no longer listening to you.
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| Quote ="bewareshadows"A bit of a guess but I'll guestimate
21. Tom Makinson, 2. Ade Gardner, 3. Jordan Turner, 19. Josh Jones, 5. Francis Meli, 6. Lance Hohaia, 12. Jon Wilkin,
8. Josh Perry, 31. Dom Speakman. 25. Alex Walmsley,
4. Sia Soliola, 13. Willie Manu,
1. Paul Wellens,
14. Anthony Laffranchi, 16. Paul Clough,
10. Louie McCarthy-Scarsbrook, 11. Tony Puletua,'"
Jesus that bench compared to:
Owen
James
Neal
Nero
I fear the worst on Friday I really do.
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| Ah screw it I've got nothing better to do right now.
Quote ="SaintsFan"That was so not your point!'"
Yes it was, it clearly says in my original post.
Quote ="BackrowSaint"You always say how you like to see young lads given a chance, this year we've seen Brown give plenty kids a chance to play, more so than your beloved Simmons. Lads like the following who we would not have expected to see:
Joe Greenwood
Anthony Walker
Jordan Hand
Mark Percival
Now Speakman and Ashe have both been called up into the squad. You could also include Walmsley in that list as most were expecting him to play predominantly for Batley this year.'"
Quote ="SaintsFan"Hilarious. From your post on the previous page:
[iYou always say how you like to see young lads given a chance, this year we've seen Brown give plenty kids a chance to play, more so than your beloved Simmons.[/i
See the last word? It's Simmons.
Do please shut up about Simmons. Get over it. He's long gone now.'"
Obviously I meant apart from that post, as that was the original post in this discussion. If you can find three other posts PREVIOUS to that one in the last three months where I mention Simmons I will give you a chocolate biscuit.
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