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| How do you think everyone went last night?
On the topic of this half-back agrument Myler V Tomkins... on last nights performance its McGuire who shouldn't be in as he was none existant...
Jammer as always led from the front, Robes played along longer than per usual, Moore well less said the better and Kyle looked a threat when he came on, great vision for the Briscoe try and doesn't this kid always look a threat from scrum bases as 1st or 2nd receiver!
As for the Aussies next week how about an extra forward on the bench with Robes starting and Eastmond to cover off the bench?
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| McGuire isnt international class, he doesnt make things happen, he is a support player at best. Ok his kicking game isnt bad, but we already carry Sinfield for his kicking, cant afford to carry another person for their kicking ability.
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| Quote ="OoOGazOoO"McGuire isnt international class, he doesnt make things happen, he is a support player at best. Ok his kicking game isnt bad, but we already carry Sinfield for his kicking, cant afford to carry another person for their kicking ability.'"
6. Tomkins
7. Myler
9. Roby
14. Eastmond
Sorted! Get them all on... Eastmond needs more game time though, he looked a threat last night but only got 10 or so minutes
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| Should have been -
Tomkins
Burrow.
Massive howler by Smith not selecting Burrow, who can make things happen, but selecting McGuire instead.
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| Tomkins and Eastmond mate, would make a great combo. very exciting.
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| Quote ="OoOGazOoO"McGuire isnt international class, he doesnt make things happen, he is a support player at best.'"
this shows you now nothing about mcguire and the player he has become in the last 5 years
Quote ="OoOGazOoO"Massive howler by Smith not selecting Burrow, who can make things happen, but selecting McGuire instead.'" mcguire has been the best stand off and scrum half at Leeds last season and out played burrow in ever part of the game in 09!
your comments are ill informed and quite frankly bull =red<snip>
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| Quote ="sgtwilko" mcguire has been the best stand off and scrum half at Leeds last season and out played burrow in ever part of the game in 09! '"
Don't give a monkeys how he plays for Leeds. You may want to make love to him every night, I don't care. It's how he plays for England that counts just now and last night it was as if he wasn't on the pitch. Same could be said for Sinfield, except he did manage to attempt a kick or two in the second half.
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| Quote ="sgtwilko"
your comments are ill informed and quite frankly bull '"
They are sad bitter losers and quite frankly their opinions dont count.
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| Quote ="sgtwilko"this shows you now nothing about mcguire and the player he has become in the last 5 years
mcguire has been the best stand off and scrum half at Leeds last season and out played burrow in ever part of the game in 09!
your comments are ill informed and quite frankly bull =red<snip>'"
What did he do last night then hotshot, against the mighty French? ? ?
Im sure the Aussies and Kiwis are sh*tting themselves at the prospect of facing the best support player in SL.
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| Quote ="SaintsFan"Don't give a monkeys how he plays for Leeds. You may want to make love to him every night, I don't care. It's how he plays for England that counts just now and last night it was as if he wasn't on the pitch. Same could be said for Sinfield, except he did manage to attempt a kick or two in the second half.'"
I think you will find he might have scored and made a try last night you blind muppet
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| Quote ="DoubleAone"They are sad bitter losers and quite frankly their opinions dont count.
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Clearly you think they do though or else you wouldn't be on here. Again.
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| Quote ="DoubleAone"I think you will find he might have scored and made a try last night you blind muppet
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Richie Myler scored two. Does that make him better than your beloved then?
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| I thought McGuire didn't have a bad game although I don't think he's international class.
Sinfield was quite good also supported well looked to off-load.
Myler although he scored two tries he created nothing and was very poor.
Ellis MOM - HOW.
Moore poor - something wrong
Roby - I thought he was one of our best players dynamic quick and his defence was excellent.
Tomkins
Burrow or Myler with MUCH improvement
Roby
Sorry but Eastmond isn't up to it yet but I would deffo have him on the bench.
Here's one from left field - what about Brough! Our kicking game was awful and he's one of the best kickers in the country.
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What did he do last night then hotshot, against the mighty French? ? ?
Im sure the Aussies and Kiwis are sh*tting themselves at the prospect of facing the best support player in SL.'" thought mcguire played well to be honest but he is my favourit player so I am generally bias!
It appears to me that a few have had the knives sharpened since the grand final looking for any scrap to feed on in attemp to get over your club teams latest capitulation. it's a shame we can't debate the international game with an open mind!
I didn't really post during the world cup as I was there having the time of my life so I really missed out on this petty back biting crap! which im more than glad about.
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| Quote ="WidnesExile"Sorry but Eastmond isn't up to it yet but I would deffo have him on the bench.'"
How do you get that exactly? He saved one try and set up another with a beautiful kick. He was only on the pitch 10 minutes!
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| Quote ="sgtwilko"thought mcguire played well to be honest but he is my favourit player so I am generally bias! .'"
Nah, really?
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| Quote ="sgtwilko"thought mcguire played well to be honest but he is my favourit player so I am generally bias!
It appears to me that a few have had the knives sharpened since the grand final looking for any scrap to feed on in attemp to get over your club teams latest capitulation. it's a shame we can't debate the international game with an open mind!
I didn't really post during the world cup as I was there having the time of my life so I really missed out on this petty back biting crap! which im more than glad about.'"
No worries.
So which part of McGuire being outshadowed by his half back partner, and also the team carrying Sinfield for his kicking, was i wrong about? ? ?
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| Quote ="SaintsFan"Nah, really?'" I see how you ignored the rest of my post! 100% Admition if I ever saw one! Didn't even attemp to denie it!
to be honest I feel sorry for ya
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| Quote ="SaintsFan"How do you get that exactly? He saved one try and set up another with a beautiful kick. He was only on the pitch 10 minutes!'"
Sorry you missunderstand me - I mean as the 'main' man to lead the team as scrum half.
I would deffo have him playing (at the least on the bench) but I think he is wasted on the wing. I like him coming into the line from full-back but he isn't up to that job positionaly or defencively - in my opinion.
So where?
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| Quote ="OoOGazOoO"No worries.
So which part of McGuire being outshadowed by his half back partner, and also the team carrying Sinfield for his kicking, was i wrong about? ? ?'" all of it! even the water boy looked better than myler. you obviously fall into the knife sharpening group
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| Quote ="sgtwilko"all of it! even the water boy looked better than myler. you obviously fall into the knife sharpening group'"
Lol right oh pal.
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| I think the main point is that we didn't peak at all last night, which is good looking towards the games against Aus and NZ. All round we need to be more clinical and i dont think we can judge the team on just one performance. I think we do need time to gel and peak. I thought our forwards looked half decent although sometimes very wasteful. The backs need time and a fair bit of work imo.
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| Quote ="OoOGazOoO"Lol right oh pal.'" Your no pal of mine player hater.
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| Quote ="Mr. Messy"6. Tomkins
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Sorted! Get them all on... Eastmond needs more game time though, he looked a threat last night but only got 10 or so minutes'"
Alright Wally Lewis calm down. if we played Tomkins and Myler in halfs we would get murdered because between them theyve probably only got about 20 SL games under their belts let alone internationals. Mcguire has proven he is the best stand off we have and always produces in big games! What an un educated comment yours was. You can not put 2 kids in half backs against Lockyer and Thurston.
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| Would like to see a Eastmond/Tomkins combination, we are not going to win the competition anyway so why not look to the future and give them the international experience. I would put McQuire out to the centres, he goes quiet when the mid field is tight, still can,t understand why Smith picks Smith, 3 more games and his career in league has gone.
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