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| Was this Saints best ever 6 & 7 partnership ?
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| Without doubt. Old rugby was worse than old football so it doesn't count.
The SL era players would thoroughly dominate our 'best ever' lineup.
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| as a partnership, the best i've seen in any team
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| Quote ="Saint Simon"as a partnership, the best i've seen in any team'"
Whoa boy.
Tommy Martyn was one of the most over rated players I have ever seen.
Watch his 2002 Challenge Cup final game when he got overplayed and our run by Julian O'Neil.
He defined lazy, and his tackling was a joke.
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| Quote ="Rogues Gallery"Whoa boy.
Tommy Martyn was one of the most over rated players I have ever seen.
Watch his 2002 Challenge Cup final game when he got overplayed and our run by Julian O'Neil.
He defined lazy, and his tackling was a joke.'"
They didn't play well all the time and both were battered by injuries, but when they clicked, and it happened alot, it was a joy to watch
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| Quote ="Rogues Gallery"Whoa boy.
Tommy Martyn was one of the most over rated players I have ever seen.
Watch his 2002 Challenge Cup final game when he got overplayed and our run by Julian O'Neil.
He defined lazy, and his tackling was a joke.'"
Utter rubbish!! The biggest pile of $hit I've seen wrote on here!!!!
His defence was good!
And you say over rated? More like under rated.
He should have been a regular for GB.
The only thing he didn't have was pace.
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| Quote ="Rogues Gallery"Whoa boy.
Tommy Martyn was one of the most over rated players I have ever seen.
Watch his 2002 Challenge Cup final game when he got overplayed and our run by Julian O'Neil.
He defined lazy, and his tackling was a joke.'"
And you think he over rated because he played bad once?
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| Quote ="St pete"Utter rubbish!! The biggest pile of $hit I've seen wrote on here!!!!
His defence was good!
And you say over rated? More like under rated.
He should have been a regular for GB.
The only thing he didn't have was pace.'"
He was never good enough for Great Britain, that's why he wasn't picked.
Your correct about his lack of pace, and he was a poor defender.
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| =rednot allowed, sorry. tm - tl
Back in your hole rogues...
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| Quote ="Saddened!"
Back in your hole rogues...'"
He ripped Wigan apart loads of times. 9/10 when playing Wigan he had a stormer. Remember his hatrick, of which he scored the winning try at JJB.
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| Quote ="Rogues Gallery"He was never good enough for Great Britain, that's why he wasn't picked.
Your correct about his lack of pace, and he was a poor defender.'"
He was a top class player but the lack of pace stopped him being world class.
Even though he lacked pace he still scored some 50 meter trys.
I seem to recall him kicking the ball football style against the pies for bout 40 meters but nobody beat him to the line.
Sorry rogues but tommy was the best 6 in super league during his time at saints.
He tried different things.
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| Quote ="saint billy"He ripped Wigan apart loads of times. 9/10 when playing Wigan he had a stormer. Remember his hatrick, of which he scored the winning try at JJB.'"
Didn't the pies claim he knocked on?
Didn't tommy score the last try at centrel park?
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| Not even good as Ainscoughs at Harlequins this season though.
How many caps did terrible Tommy get?
he was another Lee briers, flattered to deceive, and just like Briers couldn't tackle.
And that's why NO coach ever picked him for England or GB.
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| Quote ="St pete"Didn't the pies claim he knocked on?
Didn't tommy score the last try at centrel park?'"
The ball was knocked out, and he tried to regather the ball but completely missed it, it bounced, he picked it up, straight under the sticks. Think we won 30-28.
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| Quote ="Rogues Gallery"Not even good as Ainscoughs at Harlequins this season though.
How many caps did terrible Tommy get?
he was another Lee briers, flattered to deceive, and just like Briers couldn't tackle.
And that's why NO coach ever picked him for England or GB.'"
And unlike Briers, has plenty of medals.
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| Quote ="St pete"Didn't the pies claim he knocked on?
He did
Didn't tommy score the last try at centrel park?'"
Yes, for the losing side.
He was a leyther, we had to humour him.
He actually came very close to signing for Wigan, Ellery Hanley saw his defensive deficiencies and wanted rid.
Thank god he never came.
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| Belter of a pass, that.
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| Quote ="Rogues Gallery"Not even good as Ainscoughs at Harlequins this season though.
How many caps did terrible Tommy get?
he was another Lee briers, flattered to deceive, and just like Briers couldn't tackle.
And that's why NO coach ever picked him for England or GB.'"
All you bang on about is playing for the country!!!
All them young lads Wigan let go ain't good players because they don't play for the country
Is feka any good?
Phelps?
Bailey?
Smith?
Piggy?
Then you got fielden and hock who don't get picked now also gleeson gets dropped regular.
You can't always measure how good players are buy if they play for there country.
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| Quote ="Rogues Gallery"Yes, for the losing side.
He was a leyther, we had to humour him.
He actually came very close to signing for Wigan, Ellery Hanley saw his defensive deficiencies and wanted rid.
Thank god he never came.'"
He didn't knock on as the try was awarded!
It's great to know a saints player scored the last try at central park.
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| Quote ="St pete"It's great to know a saints player scored the last try at central park.'"
Ah, is [ithat[/i the reason for Rogues' bitterness? He's usually so balanced as well, for a Pie. He's still hurting, isn't he? Bless.
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| Quote ="Rogues Gallery"Not even good as Ainscoughs at Harlequins this season though.
How many caps did terrible Tommy get?
he was another Lee briers, flattered to deceive, and just like Briers couldn't tackle.
And that's why NO coach ever picked him for England or GB.'"
Tommy actually got picked for the GB squad on at least one occasion but had to pull out through injury.
It was sometimes said by people that Tommy couldnt tackle, however i well remember him making over 40 tackles in one match.
He was also the last true exponent of the cumberland throw, a martial art tackle that no players today know how to execute.
He is one of the top 3 British halves ive seen, the others being Scofield and Tony Myler.
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| Quote ="SaintsFan"Ah, is [ithat[/i the reason for Rogues' bitterness? He's usually so balanced as well, for a Pie. He's still hurting, isn't he? Bless.
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The main reason for the biterness is because Tommy spoiled the party and was the last points scorer ever at Central Park.
That's the main reason, even though they won't admit it.
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| Quote ="Duke Eddington"The main reason for the biterness is because Tommy spoiled the party and was the last points scorer ever at Central Park.
That's the main reason, even though they won't admit it.'"
Not true.
I never rated him, neither did Ellery Hanley, and neither did any GB/ England coach.
Now, you can accuse me of bias (which of course I'm not) but how do you explain the others?
Leon Pryce is by far a better player than Martyn ever was.
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| Quote ="Rogues Gallery"Not true.
I never rated him, neither did Ellery Hanley, and neither did any GB/ England coach.
Now, you can accuse me of bias (which of course I'm not) but how do you explain the others?
Leon Pryce is by far a better player than Martyn ever was.'"
Well maybe thats why we weren't successful at internationals?
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| Hanley never rated Martyn (probably because Martyn made a statue out of him in the CC Semi before he did his knee), [uand Hanley paid the price for it.[/u Tommy had more skill under his left fingernail than Edwards ever possessed.
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